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Wisi Girl · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:36 am Post subject:

P.S. I only read the first five pages of this forum. Apologies for everyone out there who reads the comment above and think, "Um, really innovative thoughts there! Did you not read the 40 million remarks in this thread, which are exactly like yours?"
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mellie3204 · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:08 am Post subject:

meep!

Scary stuff. Cult torture is one of my phobias, so this was pretty scary for me.

Don't have much to add to the above descriptions of torture methods, such as sleep deprivation, starvation, dehydration, etc. The vid description also specified drugs, and they all definately look spaced out.

Only thing I wanted to add was an article I read recently in New Scientist, that sleep deprivation actually seriously affects your moral veiwpoint, when you're even a little sleep deprived, things you thought were definately right or wrong become blurred, you tend to be more lenient about things you would have said a definate no to before. Combine that with other methods... cocktail of cult-ey badness.

Also yes, it wasn't that scary per say, but I don't think the Orderites were trying to scare them, they were trying to break them down and then convince them by sounding calm and reasonable, which in the long run is much scarier, as that tends to break a person's will much faster than force would (force causes a person to say yes but not mean it, this kind of brainwashing convinces a person yes is the right answer).

I think what someone else here said was right too, we are only seeing a cut-down version of what is probably many days worth of torture. In terms of Private Vid, it shows each of BDJ being brainwashed, the boys left somewhere afterwards after being given clear instructions to go, and Bree saying yes to the ceremony, which is all these Order flunkies would have needed to load to show their superiors, whoever they are.

All in all, I think it was well done!! (But thanks for fixing the Audio Creatortrons! We know you work hard for us!)
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Alexa Bishop · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:04 am Post subject:

Wowee... that was a good vid. The voice certainly reminded me of Saw. When it said "Hello Bree" I half expected it to follow with "I want to play a little game with you" snarf snarf.

Anyway, don't know if it helps but I'm certain this series is moving to the UK shortly. I've seen some pics of the characters taken at Warwick Castle, Leamington Spa and Stonehenge, all places which are very relevant to the Crowley aspect of the story.

Wouldn't it be freaky if they're already there, they let Daniel go, he gets out of the hotel and is like WTF this isn't America!!! With no money and no friends, he'd have a pretty tough time contacting Tachyon for help.

Anyway, I've been lurking for months now - about time I said hello so... herrow.
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Visceria · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:07 am Post subject:

*randomly pops in* Hey, everyone! ^^; Just wanted to post on some things I found note-worthy 'bout the video. . . .

One thing I thought was pretty interesting about this vid was how the Order-person asks Jonas (in a sort of weird, maybe taunting voice), "Do you know how your parents died?" Jonas says no, and the video cuts away to someone else. Then, the next time they cut back to Jonas, the Order-person suddenly asks him, "You wouldn't want something like that to happen to your friend Bree, would you?" Hmm. Something like what, exactly? Did the Order-person tell Jonas some horrific story (possibly a lie) of how Jonas' mother and father died by their hands for going against the Order?

Also, I noticed that that Order-person (haha, that will forever be their name now) used various tactics that professional interrogators are trained to use . . . the constant repeating of the subjects' names after every freakin' sentence; the soothing voice; the sleep deprivation; the whole "everything will be fine now, kiddies" shtick. . . . Yeah, you probably all already knew that, but I thought it was pretty cool anyways. XD

melpomene · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:46 am Post subject:

Did this video remind anyone else of Donnie Darko, you know Frank's voice? ...however, about a million times less scary? Now that's an example of a very creepy but calm voice that can get people to do things.

Anyway, if that voice had been less campy and more scary then I would actually like this video. I just thought it was lame. If that was the order then I'm deeply disappointed.

rupaZer0 · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:13 am Post subject:

1) I'm British, and I don't think, as some have suggested, that this voice is. It's hard to explain why the vowels are American (but they are) but if you listen, he pronounes his 'r's at the end of words - we don't do that here. The word, 'Remember,' when the voice is talking to Jonas is a good example of this. It clearly says, 'rememberr,' and not, 'remembah,' or, 'Remembuh.'

2) I like the idea that it's Bree's mum. This explains why her voice is distorted - Bree and Daniel would instantly recognise her voice. The video is to show the rest of the order what's been happening, including the fact that she changed her voice.

3) I'm glad people have started asking questions about why this is the order and not opahid. While it's obviously in practical terms because of the pm issues, the fact we've now got another faction doing a job similar to oppy's will have to be integrated into the storyline. Still, I also really liked the suggestion that the titles are spelling out aphid. Maybe this is going to get blurry and confused.

btw, I thought Bree looked a bit like itscassie in this vid.

terminallycute · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:16 am Post subject:

I agree it might possibly be Bree's adopted mom, especially since when talking with Daniel, the voice said "Come home," which assumes familiarity, not "go home."

I think they prolly sent Dan away, but will be hanging on to Jonas....will he be forced to take an impromptu part in the ceremony as further torture?

As for the ceremony...all I can think of is "Rosemary's Baby."

Poor Bree looked so rough & haggard. And at the end Jonas looked as if he was just gonna cry. Where the heck is Tachyon??

New vid now, please!!
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Kasdeja · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:39 am Post subject:

I think the voice was her father's.
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loobylou · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:41 am Post subject:

I think the voice is Ronald McDonald's!

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silvermoon · Guest

I've skimmed through all the pages of the video, and my only question now is (and I'm not sure why anyone else asked):

Who is filming Daniel and Jonas when they are in the bathroom??

This is an Order video...do they have a hidden camera? It seems like it was being shot from the door way, but I think the boys would have noticed someone standing there!

Also, when Daniel first wakes up and tried to get Jonas to wake up, there is a loud banging noise while Daniel is out of the shot. What is Daniel banging on and why?

Also, the first time I watched the video, I thought Bree said "Save Mommy", but I guess "ceremony" makes more sense.

Edit to add additional question about banging.

mellie3204 · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:54 am Post subject:

rodrigogar · Lonely Fan Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 186

i knw a lot of people might have said this. But this totally remind me of saw. HELLO BREE, I WANT TO PLAY A GAME. hehehehe. Also db and jonas wakin gup in the bathroom and jonas in the tub.

This was a scary video, i like the direction of them. Its showing up the "power" of the order, and its a lil darker than i imagined. And makes me wonder, what is this ceremony all about?.

Anyways. Am liking this Razz

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