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0047 - Zodiac of Denderah
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DontHaveAClue
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nora Volkova wrote:
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DontHaveAClue wrote:
she really is cute in this vid.

What? No, she's not really 15 and I'm not a perv, really! Come on, she's 20ish...so what? Uh? Don't tell me you think she's not cute in that vid....see? Someone has to speak out: Us, male grow-ups, have a right to think Bree/Jessica is cute in that vid without feeling like we need to talk to a professionnal and quick. She really is 20ish. There is nothing wrong about thinking she's cute. And it's not like cuteness is dirty or something. Some people say about...... pets for instance, "oh he's cute". And they're not like really really twisted perverted evil minds. It's just that there is nothing wrong in saying "cute". Damnit!


it isn't wrong to think someone is cute.


its wrong to look at 15 year olds when you are over what, 20? and then think they are cute and hot. But then again males maturity level is usually 3 or 4 years behind their actual age, so mentally I guess its not being a perv when they themselves are really mentally the same age as the 14 or 15 year old.

in this case, jessica is pretending to be a 15 year old. so really your not a perv, your just kinky.

haha.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:00 am    Post subject: Those French dudes. Reply with quote

I'm a longtime lurker writing a first time post...

Here's some information about Dominique Vivant Denon:
http://www.napoleon.org/en/reading_room/articles/files/vivant-denon-english.asp

The following article discusses Denon's sketches of Denderah and the fascination they generated in Paris:
http://pr.caltech.edu/periodicals/EandS/articles/LXVI4/buchwald.html

For more on Denderah and M. Lelorrain, you might want to examine the following:

http://www.uwm.edu/Course/egypt/0100/discoverersA.html
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2005/766/sc3.htm

Background info on the period Bree was discussing; you'll have to scroll down or read through it to find Lelorrain's exploits described.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey everyone...here's that picture on bree's wall:

http://www.mondomostre.it/images/newyork/cat_newyork_04.jpg
Click the link to view!

"It's typical of Hopper to treat even a scene of a young girl sunbathing in a stark and joyless manner. Even though they are sharing the day together, the differences in age, dress and activity between the two women suggest a disconnection between them."

this was posted on another forum...its under speculation that the women in the photo can be compared to bree and lucy...the differences in age and attire..[/url]
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looked up junk, here something: The zodiac (i.e., sky) is supported by four human-headed feminine figures standing erect (at the four corners of the canopy of heaven), who are the goddesses of the cardinal points of the compass (the other identification given is: four standing figures of the sky-goddess Nut), and also four pairs of kneeling falcon-headed deities (the other identification given is: eight figures of the kneeling earth-god Geb)

Reminds of how in the "Who is This" video when she is facing directions and saying something. Perhaps she has a role as one of these goddesses in the ceremony?

here's the link if someone didn't already put it up:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/gtosiris/page11-11a.html
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that the sweater is very un-Bree like. That was the first thing that struck me about the video.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweetie55 wrote:
Looked up junk, here something: The zodiac (i.e., sky) is supported by four human-headed feminine figures standing erect (at the four corners of the canopy of heaven), who are the goddesses of the cardinal points of the compass (the other identification given is: four standing figures of the sky-goddess Nut), and also four pairs of kneeling falcon-headed deities (the other identification given is: eight figures of the kneeling earth-god Geb)

Reminds of how in the "Who is This" video when she is facing directions and saying something. Perhaps she has a role as one of these goddesses in the ceremony?l


Seems more likely to me that the beginning of said ceremony involves invoking the four corners, but you certainly lend credence to the idea that the D. Zodiac plays an important role in the rite. Does it make me crazy that I'm already jonesing for a new vlog? LG15 is like video crack.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i posted this link before (on Sep 20)...i just scanned this thread and haven't seen anyone else post it here so... http://home.maine.rr.com/imyunnut/Den.Round.html

it talks about the 36 decans in detail and there is a link to a color coded zodiac

(sorry if this is repeat info)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bree mentioned Cancer first in her list of zodiac signs. Cancer, the crab, is also a beetle in the zodiac of denderah.

Remember back to the swimming video when she enjoyed killing the beetles - "beating thier brains out" with a flip flop.

CiW associates Cassie with Cancer; Bree's religion associates Cancer with beetles; does Bree associate beetles with Cassie? is this why she enjoys killing the beetles in the swimming video?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sofly718 wrote:
Bree mentioned Cancer first in her list of zodiac signs. Cancer, the crab, is also a beetle in the zodiac of denderah.

Remember back to the swimming video when she enjoyed killing the beetles - "beating thier brains out" with a flip flop.

CiW associates Cassie with Cancer; Bree's religion associates Cancer with beetles; does Bree associate beetles with Cassie? is this why she enjoys killing the beetles in the swimming video?



whoa thats interesting...is there anything associating beetles with the zodiac......guess so:

"In the zodiac of Denderah, the sign Cancer is represented by a beetle, called in Egypt, the scarab. The word "scarab" means "only begotten"; it stands, therefore, for birth into incarnation, or, in relation to the aspirant, for the new birth. The month of June, in ancient Egypt was called "meore", which again means rebirth", and thus both the sign and the name hold steadily before us the thought of the taking of form and of coming in physical incarnation. In an ancient zodiac in India, dated about 400 B.C., the sign is represented again by a beetle. "


Again with the incarnation idea I discussed earlier. I'm sure this ceremony has something to do with Bree coming to a higher enlightenment or an incantation of some sort.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[obligatory mod buzzkill] CIW speculation is more profitably undertaken within the spiffy, wonderful group of cassieiswatching forums amongst the welcoming, excited ciw fan community, who adore newcomers.

Although lg15 impacts ciw, the reverse still appears not to be the case. [/buzzkill]
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Nora Volkova"][obligatory mod buzzkill] [i]CIW[/i] speculation is more profitably undertaken within the spiffy, wonderful group of [i]cassieiswatching[/i] forums. Although [i]lg15[/i] impacts [i]ciw,[/i] the reverse still appears not to be the case. [/buzzkill][/quote]

regardless of CiW's association to Cancer, Bree still enjoyed killing the beetles. In fact, Bree was talking about Cassie WHILE killing the beetles. So ignoring CiW entirely, Bree still mentioned Cassie while killing beetles.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sofly718 wrote:

regardless of CiW's association to Cancer, Bree still enjoyed killing the beetles. In fact, Bree was talking about Cassie WHILE killing the beetles. So ignoring CiW entirely, Bree still mentioned Cassie while killing beetles.


definately. I agree with you.



Nora inserts herself so as to avoid such a sin as a recent double post to concede that sofly718 has made a good point, yes indeed.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobackspacebutton wrote:
sofly718 wrote:

regardless of CiW's association to Cancer, Bree still enjoyed killing the beetles. In fact, Bree was talking about Cassie WHILE killing the beetles. So ignoring CiW entirely, Bree still mentioned Cassie while killing beetles.


definately. I agree with you.



Nora inserts herself so as to avoid such a sin as a recent double post to concede that sofly718 has made a good point, yes indeed.


I also agree! Hehe! Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anyone else notice her face when she is talking about the four women? She turns her head slightly, in a proud way? Hard to tell. Not sure, but it stood out to me.

I wonder if the ceremony could involve a simulation of the myth.
And perhaps she gets to play/enact the part of one of the women?
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