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gjtko2007
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe tracking is a possibility, but we haven't seen anything since they got into Mexico. So I don't really know. Confused

(I also think that's why Bree checked Daniel's camera in the funny spring break video: looking for watchers/followers from the Order)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gjtko2007 wrote:
I believe tracking is a possibility, but we haven't seen anything since they got into Mexico. So I don't really know. Confused

(I also think that's why Bree checked Daniel's camera in the funny spring break video: looking for watchers/followers from the Order)


Because she thought Daniel was one?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Susan wrote:
gjtko2007 wrote:
I believe tracking is a possibility, but we haven't seen anything since they got into Mexico. So I don't really know. Confused
(I also think that's why Bree checked Daniel's camera in the funny spring break video: looking for watchers/followers from the Order)

Because she thought Daniel was one?

One what, Susan? a watcher? Someone from the Order? At this point Daniel is totally not a suspect in that way. He could be co-opted through hypnosis or have a plant on him, but Daniel is not a watcher.
GJ, I think it always takes a little time before they show their face. They were in that motel a couple weeks before the watcher was spotted. At Jonas's it took even longer and at Alex's house she didn't get home right away. It's more likely they are tracking mostly by word of their members.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To answer mincartaugh's question

there is something in revelation that talks about the mark of the beast.

The anti-christ makes a false religion, and in order to be in it you need the mark. Everyone with the mark goes to hell.

Also, when Cain killed Abel he was given a mark by God.

Now, on why they haven't made a move in Mexico. They have tried and failed twice, so maybe they are waiting for that perfect moment when nothing can go wrong.

Or worse, they are waiting for BDJ to meet Tachyon, so they get hit two birds with one stone.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spades wrote:
To answer mincartaugh's question
there is something in revelation that talks about the mark of the beast.

I don't know, calling an implanted tracking device "the mark of the beast" seems a bit far fetched to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, mincar, the mark of the Beast is one, and I believe that the tracking devices could have a "666" prefix that ties into a master computer.

Also, these could be used to bring about the "one world government" talked about in Revelation. The Bible says that anyone who doesn't have the mark can't buy or sell anything. What a convenient way to control the masses. Plus, the government would know where you are at any given time.

Tracking devices give the government power that is beyond comprehension.

Also, the mark is supposed to be in the hand or forehead, and the chips that have been planted have been in the hand, as far as I know.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol wow! Sorry I brought that up, didn't mean to spark a conversation about human leashes! But yeah, I think those things are funny. I usually laugh at children wearing them. Is that mean? Cool Twisted Evil

Anyway, the tracking device idea seems a little extreme, but when you think about it, the Order isn't afraid to go to extremes, from what we've seen. We know Bree has a scar in the shape of the Watcher symbol. That's a pretty extreme way to mark a child (assuming it was done when she was a baby, before she can remember... unless they gave her these drugs at some point.. hm idk). Either way, we know the Order has the power to kidnap, kill, drug, and erase memory to an extent. What would stop them from putting a chip in their precious Ceremony Girl?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's a thought:

I know I started this thread with the chips, but maybe Bree doesn't have one (as for DB and Jonas, I do not know)

This idea just came to me randomly. Apparently, Bree is unique in a way to the Order. They do not ever really use that much force against her, even when all three of them were caught (I remember Bree gasping, and then Jonas being suffacated. Big difference there).

Maybe they want to keep her "pure" or something, and the only thing that goes in her are food, drink, and those injections. Maybe that is why she couldn't go to the party, or anywhere, for that fact. Keeping her safe and untouched seemed to be of high priority before.

Also, I saw a video on Revver that came up when I typed LG15 in the search. It is called the World: Denderah or something. The other videos made by the same person were kind of... well, useless, but the one on Denderah might have info.

If you watch it, give your opinion/knowledge if is true or not.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spades wrote:
here's a thought:

I know I started this thread with the chips, but maybe Bree doesn't have one (as for DB and Jonas, I do not know)

This idea just came to me randomly. Apparently, Bree is unique in a way to the Order. They do not ever really use that much force against her, even when all three of them were caught (I remember Bree gasping, and then Jonas being suffacated. Big difference there).

Maybe they want to keep her "pure" or something, and the only thing that goes in her are food, drink, and those injections. Maybe that is why she couldn't go to the party, or anywhere, for that fact. Keeping her safe and untouched seemed to be of high priority before.

Also, I saw a video on Revver that came up when I typed LG15 in the search. It is called the World: Denderah or something. The other videos made by the same person were kind of... well, useless, but the one on Denderah might have info.

If you watch it, give your opinion/knowledge if is true or not.


i see 3 possibilities with the tracking devices.

1) Bree had one implanted pre-LG15. either at birth, close to birth, or later in life and the memory was erased. [a baby wouldn't remember anyways, and wouldn't need to have the memory erased]

2) Bree [and probably Daniel and Jonas, too] had a tracking device implanted when they were captured, or secretly paid a visit to a home. the only way i can think of to do this without leaving some kind of mark or trace would be orally, and that would have to pass through eventually [although i suppose a very small simple robot or perhaps certain chemicals could cause a tracker to stick to the walls of the stomach permanently]. also, they could have had some sort of tracker implanted in one of their belongings. their camera/s?

3) They don't have a tracker, and are simply very good at finding / following people.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spades wrote:


Maybe they want to keep her "pure" or something, and the only thing that goes in her are food, drink, and those injections. Maybe that is why she couldn't go to the party, or anywhere, for that fact. Keeping her safe and untouched seemed to be of high priority before.

Also, I saw a video on Revver that came up when I typed LG15 in the search. It is called the World: Denderah or something. The other videos made by the same person were kind of... well, useless, but the one on Denderah might have info.


But when the trio was captured, Bree was obviously drugged just like the boys. An epogen injection would not have affected her that way. And I do believe that chloroform was used to knock out Bree during the capture as well as the boys (they weren't being suffocated, just forced to inhale the chloroform off of the rags). This would almost instantly knock them out so they wouldn't be able to fight back. By the time they woke up, they would have been given more drugs while "they" attempted to brainwash the trio. This is why they can't remember anything.

As far as tracking, I still think that one of Bree's puppets (probably P Monkey), who she takes to every place they stay, is the thing with the tracking device. It's been my theory for quite some time that Bree was brainwashed at a young age with the puppets used as the focus device. This is why she is so attatched to them. The Order knows that she won't leave them behind, so they tagged one of them to make sure they could always find her.

Just my little pet theory, though! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not think it could have been placed in her when se was very young. First, it would be around 1990, so I do not think that anyone had broken to much ground in nano-technology. Secondly, it could have affected her growth and health.

Still, they could have given it to her at any time before LG15.

As for the animals, I do not know why they would put it in there, that is too much of a gamble; unless it is because they do not want to contaminate her or the trigger programming you said.
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