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lg15panda Casual Observer
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 95
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Luminous wrote: | Deagol arrived at this last night, but as of yet, we have found no matching key. |
Well that's good, though we still don't know whether that is the right track or not.
I had an idea that the word "bill" might be mentioned somewhere in the Seuss book "Oh Say Can You Say", so I tried to track the book down online (I don't own the book). I was able to find an audio version of it on YouTube here: part1 part2
Though I had a great time watching it, "bill" wasn't mentioned. Darn. |
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trainer101 Moderator Manager

Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 2671 Location: Wasting away again ILLUMINATIVILLE...
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Based on an earlier chat with Maddison, it appears that this is indeed the right track.
lorien wrote: | Following many of us discussing how much we needed more information, Maddison entered the chat.
Two distinct points were made:
1) Maddison very much liked the idea that "hurry" is the last word. She then prodded our knowledge of ciphers in order to determine whether there is a way for us to break the code with the knowledge that hurry is the last word.
2) It was discussed that many keys had been attempted. Maddison asked which keys. I responded, "saltwater, saline, ocean, references from the Seuss poem, musical references, 'Is This Thing On Check One'". Maddison suggested we try synonyms of those. |
At this point, it seems we are looking for synonyms of "saltwater", "sea" or "ocean" as the key. _________________ It's STILL all connected... |
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bethy Devoted Fan

Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 858 Location: Follow the yellow brick road...
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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The hubby's not having any luck either.
He said it's probably sitting there staring at him but he's not seeing it. |
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nowherepixie Owen's Helper

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 1633 Location: Birmingham, England
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe it's referring to 'sea' as in lots of things?
Like a sea of faces or something?
You know so words like abundance, multitude etc....
...maybe?  |
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ignatzmouse Enthusiastic Fan

Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 305 Location: Coconino County, AZ
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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lg15panda wrote: | I hope I didn't mess up somewhere, but if "hurry" is the last word and this is a vigenere cipher, then I think we're looking for a passphrase that ends in "obill" and starts with either 3, 5, or 15 more letters before "obill." Someone check me on this?
Passphrase would then be either:
---obill
-----obill
---------------obill |
The passphrase wraps around, so it could be:
obill
billxo
obillxx
xxxobill
billxxxxo
xxxxxobill
xxobillxxxx
billxxxxxxxo
lxxxxxxxxobil
xxxxxxxobillxx
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like you said IF it's Vigenere and IF it's hurry and and and
ETA: Unless the plaintext starts "Enotw" or "Rglt" the passphrases starting "obill" or "bill" are knocked out.
ETA2: In fact, every one of the above keys generates rubbish. So IF it's Vigenere and IF it's hurry THEN the keylength is greater than 13. _________________ Facility J: Will the last disgruntled employee to leave please destroy The Cure?
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honeybee627 Suspiciously Absent
Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 22 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe she meant "homonym" instead of "synonym," as in "see"?
("Oh Say can you Say/See"...okay just grasping at straws.) |
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ignatzmouse Enthusiastic Fan

Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 305 Location: Coconino County, AZ
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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bethy wrote: | Okay, the hubby is looking at it now...said it's a little harder than he thought it was going to be. |
Ooh really? I'm so shocked.  _________________ Facility J: Will the last disgruntled employee to leave please destroy The Cure? |
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bethy Devoted Fan

Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 858 Location: Follow the yellow brick road...
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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He's still working on it.
Although I've no idea why at this point. |
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lorien Casual Observer

Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 50 Location: Cochabamba, Bolivia
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Solution to Code
Foutain Town - Stormy Venue - No Post No Bills - 8404? Hurry
Vigenere AutoKey: http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/vigenere-autokey.php
Decrypt.
Passphrase: "NaclH2o"
Your Message: "Sowehws Hipn - Aghfil Nxblq - Lj Tbmx Ac Qwdef - 8404← Vvzcj"
We've been poking at this all day, literally. Several of us determined early that since codes need keys, and this code came with two vials, the vials must be the key. Maddison's intuition confirmed this thought later in chat. Therefore, the collective chat group plus Maddison developed lists of synonyms. Maddison specifically wanted us to focus on compounds of the synonyms.
We were running them through VigNormal, VigAutoKey, Keyed Vig, and Keyed Caesar.
"salt, water, salt water, finney, wine, winery, fish, seuss, fresh, ocean, h20, nacl, red sea, sodium, agua, sal, river, saline, gulf, gulf ocean, ocean gulf, salt wave, gulf sea, river water, river salt, salt river, salt sea, sea salt, saltwater fish, saltwater ocean, saltwater sea, sal agua, agua de sal, mar de sal, fish salt, aquarium, bottled salt water, evaporation, oxygen, hydrogen, hydrogen oxygen, hydrogen oxygen sodium, salt water wine, finney fish, fresh saltwater fish, hydrogen oxygen nacl, agua salada, naclh20, hydrogren oxygen sodium chloride, sodium chloride, fried fish, microphone, spice, flavor,"
We were consistently very close, but always falling just this short. Finally, Maddison had the idea of specifically having us run through a few of the synonyms from the list (h2onacl, and naclh2o) through the codebreakers. I realized I had been typing h20 (zero) rather than h2o. Problem solved.
Maddison's intuition and persistence saved our sanity! Mr. Zipp was clearly correct in thinking she's of value in this struggle.
The result is:
Foutain Town - Stormy Venue - No Post No Bills - 8404? Hurry
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bethy Devoted Fan

Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 858 Location: Follow the yellow brick road...
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Passphrase: "NaclH2o" |
Yup. Right in front of your face the whole time. |
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satansgurl Casual Observer

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 59 Location: My own little corner of hell...
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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*sob* I tried that but backwards this afternoon! I was SO close!!! _________________ ~Member of the DBFC |
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kellylen The Order of Denderah

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 2823 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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we figure this is a drop so we need all your help everyone trying to figure out the location _________________ -Kelly |
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bethy Devoted Fan

Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 858 Location: Follow the yellow brick road...
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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"Foutain"
Note the missing N? |
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Luminous Thor's Hammer

Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 1359 Location: Facility J
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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bethy wrote: | He's still working on it.
Although I've no idea why at this point. |
Hahaha Bethy The next step is addiction lol  _________________ You made a wise choice, Bree.
There's no place like home.
Click to watch: The Ice Princess |
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GreenLaceBeauty Suspiciously Absent
Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 24 Location: Between Canada and Mexico.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Kansas City is the City of Fountains.
8404 Wornall Rd is Church's Chicken.
Also found Fountain Hills, AZ
Fountain, CO
I'm sure there are a million others...
...i HAVE to stop posting. _________________ I lurk. |
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