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nowherepixie Owen's Helper

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 1633 Location: Birmingham, England
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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True, Lucy did appear to turn up. |
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Spades Owen's Helper

Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 1679 Location: Cassie is watching, and so is everyone else, she's not that special.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I guess there is nothing weird about Lucy being jules's helper. I dont know, maybe since she felt that she failed with Bree she wanted to redeem herself with this girl.
But, Jules was still kidnapped, so if it was Lucy's responsibility to look after her, the Order might be a little pissed at her, even if she did get Bree in the end. |
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nowherepixie Owen's Helper

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 1633 Location: Birmingham, England
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Yeh, if that's true Lucy will be in troooouble! |
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ladysolitary85 Enthusiastic Fan

Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 354 Location: California
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:57 am Post subject: |
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Lucy couldn't be her watcher, only reason being is because shes her Helper. (unless they're allowed both jobs *shrugs*) _________________ http://www.myspace.com/codenameladysolitary |
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nowherepixie Owen's Helper

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 1633 Location: Birmingham, England
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: |
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even if she was her helper she'd probably still be in trouble. |
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trainer101 Moderator Manager

Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 2671 Location: Wasting away again ILLUMINATIVILLE...
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Doing a little housekeeping and re-titled the thread.
Just a note to everyone: It's much easier to navigate the forums and draw people into the discussion when you clearly title the threads. Please keep this in mind when creating new threads.
Trainer _________________ It's STILL all connected... |
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Spades Owen's Helper

Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 1679 Location: Cassie is watching, and so is everyone else, she's not that special.
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Who said she was a watcher?
I think one is higher up than the other. One tells the other what to do. Who does what, i dont know, but someone is yelled at. |
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AsRealAsImagined Suspiciously Absent
Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 6
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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The evidence suggests that watchers are assigned when there is something that actually needs watching--a threat, I suppose. Bree and Jules sitting in their rooms doing what they are told wouldn't call for a watcher. |
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Gidget Devoted Fan

Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 596 Location: Right behind you
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:33 am Post subject: |
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What if this whole thing is like when the Order had a fake ceremony to fool Daniel? What if there is no new girl at all?
I'd feel gypped. _________________ I'm back from vacation!
I totally <3 Spencer! |
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Spades Owen's Helper

Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 1679 Location: Cassie is watching, and so is everyone else, she's not that special.
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Evidence leans more towards the watchers being present at all times, actually. They are making sure a secret cult does not go public. You cannot just say, "Ah, we can trust that no one will enter the community and mess with our plans, or that anyone will try to leave, or even talk about it."
It would be like building a prison and hiring no guards. That's what watchers are, guards, and sometimes serving as police or soldiers (taking away Bree's family, getting rid of her dad b/c he was talking, and their attempted securing the transfer of Dan) in their own sick sense. |
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RoseCrowley Owen's Helper

Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 1951 Location: Orlando, Floriduh
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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I think I got confused between a "watcher" and a "helper"...what are the main differences again?  _________________ RoseCrowley:I wish my tooth would fall out so i could trade it with the tooth fairy!
TTT:Granted, but the fairy takes your credit card instead of leaving money and gets like fifty lap dances w/ it.
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AsRealAsImagined Suspiciously Absent
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Spades wrote: | Evidence leans more towards the watchers being present at all times, actually. They are making sure a secret cult does not go public. You cannot just say, "Ah, we can trust that no one will enter the community and mess with our plans, or that anyone will try to leave, or even talk about it."
It would be like building a prison and hiring no guards. That's what watchers are, guards, and sometimes serving as police or soldiers (taking away Bree's family, getting rid of her dad b/c he was talking, and their attempted securing the transfer of Dan) in their own sick sense. |
Considering the degree of parental control, I would guess that the parents function in this supervisory role ordinarily. |
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Gidget Devoted Fan

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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RoseCrowley wrote: | I think I got confused between a "watcher" and a "helper"...what are the main differences again?  |
A helper is a person assigned to help prepare for the ceremony. Kinda like a teacher I presume. A watcher, as far as we know, is more like a protector. They are less personally involved from what I gather. _________________ I'm back from vacation!
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RoseCrowley Owen's Helper

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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thankyou, i swear i had a brain fart  _________________ RoseCrowley:I wish my tooth would fall out so i could trade it with the tooth fairy!
TTT:Granted, but the fairy takes your credit card instead of leaving money and gets like fifty lap dances w/ it.
Mawhahaha! |
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Spades Owen's Helper

Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Posts: 1679 Location: Cassie is watching, and so is everyone else, she's not that special.
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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How many kids sneak away from their parents? Almost every single kid.
How many kids get past a group of people with high tech survailiance and considerable manpower? Not many.
The Order is secretive, they want nothing to do with the outside world, at least, they do not want the followers to. They seem to be the type that would pull a "big brother", and watch you. (pics of DB on Lucy's comp)
Let's go off topic for a sec.
Remember the pictures Julia's town? It was on Lucy's computer. I doubt they were thinking, "Well, I predict we will not catch Bree for several months, so somewhere in, oh, I dont know, May, we will try to fake her out with a fake ceremony girl." (I can picture one of those Guiness cartoon guys saying "Brilliant!")
Plus, the Order does not watch the vids as far as I know, so they would not see that Bree has changed dramatically over time. I would even think that they would not think she was the mastermind behind DB's rescue in "The Human Ransom". Think they would just say, "She's too soft and childlike to orchestrate an escape by helicopter. The idea must have been solely from Tachyon and Brother/10033." So, therefore, the farfetched plan that was hatched way ahead of its creation does not seem so plausible to me.
Ok, the recent vid shows that she is not the girl. I guess that really was their plan. The idea is still a little weird to me, it just seems to perfect.
Ah, well, I was wrong anyway, nothing will change that. |
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