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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Facility J was fanfic, so until that whole Canon magic happens I'll continue to pursue this line of reasoning.
I doubt we'll ever see canonization of any ARG - however, if I were a Creator, I'd take a close look at the plot of Facility J because it's tied all the pieces together for them. Isn't this the kind of interactivity they have asked for? Both Facility J and Maddison Atkins exist within the Breeniverse while not directly interacting with the characters. Kinda like Nikki does. Neither needs to be canonized to be incorporated.

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

before coming to visit the forums, i (stupidly) attempted to find out what trait negative meant. (yea.. right) but everything that came up included "trait negative affectivity"

since everything is too technical for me to understand, i have just one eensy question..
does that pretty much mean the same thing, or is it saying something along the lines of "tested negative for the trait that affects this condition," or.. what?
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We assume it means that Jules tested negative for the presence of a particular trait.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats what i gathered from reading this. i just wanted to make sure the affectivity didnt change what it meant..
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trainer101 wrote:
sack36 wrote:
Facility J was fanfic, so until that whole Canon magic happens I'll continue to pursue this line of reasoning.
I doubt we'll ever see canonization of any ARG - however, if I were a Creator, I'd take a close look at the plot of Facility J because it's tied all the pieces together for them. Isn't this the kind of interactivity they have asked for? Both Facility J and Maddison Atkins exist within the Breeniverse while not directly interacting with the characters. Kinda like Nikki does. Neither needs to be canonized to be incorporated.

See Sig

Ok. I'll go finish watching Facility J. Can't hurt!
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do remember Bree saying that the girls have a certain trait from birth, which would imply that trait negative would mean she is lacking that certain trait. BUT Julia's family may have hada child before with that special trait and are part of the order. What I mean is, what if Bree was adopted FROM that family? And that is why Julia would know the things about the order as far as quotes and the parents are strict. And why she would have been tested to begin with.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kristine wrote:
I do remember Bree saying that the girls have a certain trait from birth, which would imply that trait negative would mean she is lacking that certain trait. BUT Julia's family may have hada child before with that special trait and are part of the order. What I mean is, what if Bree was adopted FROM that family?


Oh, please god, no. Rolling Eyes No remarkably-coincidental blood relatives.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL! I'm with you Lass. We've had way too many of those remarkably coincidental bits already.

I looked over the Facility J stuff, but I don't see anything in there that isn't just foundation work for what I'm researching right now. When I first watched that series I thought it was good but it didn't really solve any questions beyond the whole "there is a scientific background to the whole blood sacrifice thing". Am I missing something?
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LOL! I'm with you Lass. We've had way too many of those remarkably coincidental bits already.

I looked over the Facility J stuff, but I don't see anything in there that isn't just foundation work for what I'm researching right now. When I first watched that series I thought it was good but it didn't really solve any questions beyond the whole "there is a scientific background to the whole blood sacrifice thing". Am I missing something?
No, you're not missing anything. The Facility J ARG is about the exact same thing we are discussing here which is why I made reference to it. Many of the discussions, puzzles etc., tie directly into the LG15 plotline and this subject specifically. We are still figuring it all out. One doesn't have to play the game to take advantage of the research that's been done (and there's been a lot).
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Trait negative just might mean... :idea: Reply with quote

If the order had doctors hidden throughout the hospital they would test Jules to see if she was right for the ceramony. If she wasn't they would put the paper with the results of 'Trait negative'. Maybe in Bree's folder it says 'Trait postive'.

Just a thougt. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It never said anywhere what trait was negative (though I feel that Jules is not the girl, now at least).

I dont know, maybe she doesn't have a bad trait, and has all good traits? To be honest, we cannot truly know until we see Bree's medical report. (It sucks that it is in CA. Though it probably will say trait positive, it might have more clues. Maybe it is filled out more than Jules's, b/c Bree would be more important if she could do the ceremony. Ya never know.)
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey emerrs11, I'm just gonna merge this with the ongoing discussion so we're all talking about the same thing at the same place.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trainer101 wrote:
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LOL! I'm with you Lass. We've had way too many of those remarkably coincidental bits already.

I looked over the Facility J stuff, but I don't see anything in there that isn't just foundation work for what I'm researching right now. When I first watched that series I thought it was good but it didn't really solve any questions beyond the whole "there is a scientific background to the whole blood sacrifice thing". Am I missing something?
No, you're not missing anything. The Facility J ARG is about the exact same thing we are discussing here which is why I made reference to it. Many of the discussions, puzzles etc., tie directly into the LG15 plotline and this subject specifically. We are still figuring it all out. One doesn't have to play the game to take advantage of the research that's been done (and there's been a lot).

Cool. Well with that encouragement, I'll redouble my rifling through the threads to find out what you all found out already! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like i need to start playing Facility J. I feel really behind.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I dont know, maybe she doesn't have a bad trait, and has all good traits? To be honest, we cannot truly know until we see Bree's medical report. (It sucks that it is in CA. Though it probably will say trait positive, it might have more clues. Maybe it is filled out more than Jules's, b/c Bree would be more important if she could do the ceremony. Ya never know.)

Daniel said in the Chat that they're heading back to Jonas' house, so they could try the same thing there and find her file! Hope that gives a little more information...
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