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Hannahbee
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beavinator wrote:
Of course, my posts all get ignored anyway. I'm sure this will be no different. Not that I've ever posted anything earth-shattering, but it's nice to be acknowledged.


Daniel!!!

it would be totally awesome if you acknowledged the beavinator in your next video... i know they're following you and everything, but a little shoutout never... sacrificed... anybody. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hannahbee wrote:
beavinator wrote:
Of course, my posts all get ignored anyway. I'm sure this will be no different. Not that I've ever posted anything earth-shattering, but it's nice to be acknowledged.


Daniel!!!

it would be totally awesome if you acknowledged the beavinator in your next video... i know they're following you and everything, but a little shoutout never... sacrificed... anybody. Wink



Hey..... it could happen
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beavinator wrote:
rachelalexis wrote:

I think it's because now that they're recognizing in the series that there's a forum (ex: Daniel's references to it) then they know that a lot of people watch and would be worried. So the best way to get people off their backs is to make it uninteresting and no big deal.

And I love your name, is that acknowledgement enough? Laughing


Yes, I suspect that's probably the motivation being put forth here, I just don't think it's very realistic. Assuming we are dealing with a secretive religious organization which has existed for centuries, they have probably "disappeared" plenty of people in the past, and I doubt they'd be too worried about some people on an internet forum. Sure we'd all be worried if Bree stopped posting, but what could any of us do about it? These people are untouchable. Even Daniel can't find anything out about them, and he's following them with cameras. None of us even know where they actually are.

But, as Lester said, the show would be over if she stopped vlogging, so I think I'm bitching about an element of this particular form of entertainment which simply can't be avoided... Smile

Oh and thanks! There's no big story behind my name...people called me "Beavis" in college, and it grew from there, with inspiration from Rob Schneider's "makin' copies!" guy from Saturday Night Live... "The Beavinator! Beav-o-Rama...!!"


I am reminded of the line from "Thank you for Smoking" where, when confronted with the fact that smoking cigarettes in a heavily oxygenated environment would cause everythin to blow up, the film agent said oh thats easy - we can just solve that with one line of dialogue: "Thank god we invented the ... whatever ...". All they need to do is drop a reference to this new fancy firewall they have now that blocks out interactive forums and video. Since Daniel is not behind it, he can still access the forums. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toadlguy wrote:
I am reminded of the line from "Thank you for Smoking" where, when confronted with the fact that smoking cigarettes in a heavily oxygenated environment would cause everythin to blow up, the film agent said oh thats easy - we can just solve that with one line of dialogue: "Thank god we invented the ... whatever ...". All they need to do is drop a reference to this new fancy firewall they have now that blocks out interactive forums and video. Since Daniel is not behind it, he can still access the forums. Smile


Why that's so crazy, it might just work. Brilliant sir!
Not that your theory gained brownie points just for referencing one of my favorite movies or anything...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took these two pics from the last two videos and compare a couple of things in them to see if they are possibly from the same day.....it looks promising. She is wearing a black bra in both, maybe the same one?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just so you know, the blue lines are the same. I copied/pasted the line from the top pic to the bottom to see how close they'd line up with the crease.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GraySavant wrote:
saralynn wrote:
spaciegirl wrote:
I don't think the actual poster is significant at all. It's just a common copy of a lithograph that was an advertisement for a brand (Robette, I assume) of absinthe. I doubt that the artist is well known or significant and this type of thing isn't neccessarily even thought to be fine art (especially not at the time it was made) by many people. I think that absinthe is the clue. Maybe it is the reason why Bree seemed a little dopey in the last video..


I'm an art history major so I just have to correct you out of habit, lol! The artist is Alphonse Mucha, and he's very famous. Maybe what he did wasn't 'fine art' but it was revolutionary graphic art.

Other than that, I don't think there's any significance to Mucha. I think they just wanted something that said Absinthe on it, and they found that advertisement and used it. I have about 5 of his posters, they aren't hard to get.

Carry on!


Hello. I'm student of art history and i must say that artist IS NOT Mucha. It's another poster artist who was active in his time - Privat Livemont. Just Google his name.

That is funny, I didn't think it was Mucha but I was too lazy to look it up.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno... I have a lot of blue bras (fav color, plus co-ordinating sets, hello!) probably enough to make it through a week at least, so maybe that's just her "thing".

What else do you have circled, I can't tell what that is....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luv2Skydive wrote:
I took these two pics from the last two videos and compare a couple of things in them to see if they are possibly from the same day.....it looks promising. She is wearing a black bra in both, maybe the same one?



Good eye boss! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Luv2Skydive"]I took these two pics from the last two videos and compare a couple of things in them to see if they are possibly from the same day.....it looks promising. She is wearing a black bra in both, maybe the same one?

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so are you saying that jessica rose and creators filmed 2episodes in 1 day

or that Bree filmed 2 v-logs in 1 day?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's great how you compared two v-logs by noticing the color of Bree's bra. I guess it's kind of prominent how it's always showing.

Great thinking, but I'm not exactly sure if it was the same day or not. Does it matter?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bree made both episodes before the ceremony....but the last one was made to look like it was after so Daniel would leave her alone. I think that theory was going around?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The circles are around creases in the blanket. The black bra observation was a stretch, but something else that connected the two vlogs. I couldn't find anything else.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DontHaveAClue wrote:
After reading all these pages, this is what I think. Please try to follow me here.

Did "the big ceremony" look big to you? No! It looked like something that was staged for someone to believe that it was an important religious ceremony...Who? Us? Daniel? No! I think it was staged for Bree. Someone is making Bree believe in all that.

Why so many different places, with no apparent link between them, were displayed on Lucy's computer? Well...what do we know about Lucy? She a Helper. That means she was here to help Bree to go through the ceremony. Not because it was that difficult, but because Lucy was instrumental in the belief of Bree that this was all serious and important. All these places showed us that Lucy is on a mission. She's not helping one kid, but many of them, all living in different locations in the US. That's what she does. All of them will have a ceremony, and they will believe it's a rare ceremony, that they are "chosen" ones. I bet they are also kids with no friends, no brother/sister....Incidentaly, Lucy also brought Bree to end all relationship with Daniel.

What do we know about Bree's religion. Not much. But I think she doesn't know much either. It's all a make-to-believe thing. Did the priest looked like a priest to you? More like a security guard/secret agent type of Nazi crazy dude if you want my opinion. Why are they after Daniel? Because they have something to hide, obviously.

So why do they do that? I think they are selecting a few kids around the country, a few "chosen ones", lonely kids, easy to manipulate. What is in common between Aleister Crowley and the people on the Mayflower? They were people who wanted to found an new society, create a new world. People who wanted to take their destiny in their hands. Remember what Bree's mother said to her father when they met? Bree's parents are into it too. They agreed to hand Bree to these guys to be a chosen one.

What will they do? I think they have a crazy plan like building a new society from scratch, independently of human evolution (they want to prove science wrong!). So they're a chosing a few kids, inocent,pure, without attach to anyone, and they will bring them in a secret place, like a refuge...something that would be called Anchor Cove for instance. They will be the children of Anchor Cove, the future of human kind or some crazy stuff like that.

But wait, Daniel is a tough guy, and he will ruin their plans........


(ok maybe I read too many SciFi books in my tender age...)


Excellent post. To quote Mythbusters "This theory is Plausibe"
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it kind of makes sense.. the ceremony she attended, she said was "Initiation." Would maybe have occured to make her feel at ease and comfortable with her ceremony posse.

If her previous video was indeed filmed after the ceremony, then the fact that everything she learned (Enochian, the walking..) being part of it would mean they are making her feel comfortable. And perhaps they did know Daniel had a touch of Stalkerism, wanted to let Bree know so took photos.

But then again this really could have been the ceremony and Daniel was chased off before the juicy stuff happened.

I think the best is yet to come..

PS. and totally off topic..Anyone from the UK seen the advert for "Unanimous" on Ch4? I can't remember what they whisper, but it sounds like Cassie. Scary.
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