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staticmorning · Enthusiastic Fan Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 263

im pretty sure we need to look at the box a bit closer to figure anything huge out, but heres how my friend (with help from his AP Bio notes..) tried to ribosymes them to me..

There's a thing called RNA SPLICING where all of the useless RNA segments (introns --- Exons are the useful ones) are cut off of the RNA segment, and the good parts are stuck back together. The ribozyme is the molecule that starts the whole process (catalyzes). It breaks the (covalent atomic) bonds that hold the pieces together.

((or as i so eloquently put it..)) so they just randomly decide.. hey its spring cleaning time.. lets get rid of the bad stuff and then hire a bunch of maids?

The "spring cleaning" goes on when the mRna is leaving the nucleus, because if all of the useless parts are still in, there's enzymes outside the nucleus and inside that will screw up the code, or even "turn off" the rna

so the mRNA tries to deliever whatever it is its suppose to delieve.. i dont remember what..btw. mRNA is a copy of the DNA code, which is what the cell uses as an "instructino book" to make proteins." and in order to make is job eaier and make it harder to get destroyed by all the nasty stuff, the ribosymes spring clean so theres less info to deliver..?

this way, only the important stuff gets sent out of the nucleus.

i dont know that this will be of any help, but now i understand what they are at least.. i hope it can help someone else grasp the concept too..
and, please, if you realise something's wrong here, let me know..

LittleChickie · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject:

That seems right from what I can remember from class. I just sucks that I threw away my notes on this stuff only a week ago. ha!

The_CW · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject:

You're friend has the right idea. I'm doing further research right now to see what the importance of ribozymes would be to people like the Order. Personally, I think it might have something to do with financial gain, but who knows?
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mindinflight · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: ribozymes?

LittleChickie · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:58 pm Post subject:

They could use the knowledge for themselves. Immortality? Maybe that's what the new members are needed for. To be guinea pigs for them.

After they get it perfected they could try to sell it to others. Make big bucks off of it.

Even if it was cloning they could claim they could technically live forever. ha

The_CW · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject:

Alright. I just found something really interesting. I found a page that says that ribozymes are very important in finding a cure for HIV, and many other diseases. Maybe the Order wants to find a cure for HIV so they can make loads of money? I'll throw the link up, and let you all have a look for yourselves.

http://www.uchsc.edu/sm/deptmed/ribozymes/index.htm
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staticmorning · Enthusiastic Fan Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 263

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There really is no greater victory or power than eternal life.

The_CW · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:06 pm Post subject:

Humans aren't meant to be immortal. That's why we've been dying for millions of years.
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trainer101 · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject:

Did someone say "Cure for Death"? Check out the Facility J discussions in the ARG section at the bottom of the forum. The exact same conversations are going on. Or you can check out my stuff from months ago... HERE Wink

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mindinflight · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: ribozymes?

LittleChickie · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject:

staticmorning · Enthusiastic Fan Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 263

for those of us who are a little bit scientifically challenged.. i present (once again) an explination from the best explainer ever, my friend kyle...

this time on the attempts to use ribosymes to help get rid of HIV..

looks like they're trying to use Ribozymes to destroy the HIV rna that it uses to reproduce itself

so theyre using ribosymes to destroy bad rna.. which is what it usually does anyway..?

Right, execpt HIV RNA is resistant, it cuts out the good parts of the cell, and replaces it with HIV that is pretty much in a good guy costume, so it gets by, and the things don't notice it.

so if they put more of them into HIV infected cells.. they can "hire bigger. stronger maids"..?

maybe not more ribozymes in a cell, but if the make a " a stronger ribozyme" like say a cellular Hulk Hogan, then it might work.

so theyre trying to make a stronger ribosyme that can pretty much throw the big bad HIV out..?

yes! bigger Bouncers for Club Cell!

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