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kristenjane · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject:

I dont think Jonas is taking advantage.. He is helping
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wh_pirate · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject:

OK. I just got home and forums are lagging. Already on page 3. Shocked

Where is the link for the new vid? I've been refreshing and refreshing and still no thumbnail. What's up?!
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longlostposter · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject:

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Hannahbee · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject:

i agree with Lurker that they're both going about it kind of wrong. the thing is, if they would just sit down and talk about it like rational adults, the might be able to come to some better solutions. i think DB and jonas both have some very valid points in their videos, they're just not putting enough consideration into each other's positions. if i were where jonas was right now, and my options were (1) leave bree alone in a trance-like state staring out a window in her room or (2) let her cling to me like a lost puppy (well, maybe a little more romantically than a lost puppy...) and actually see her smile and walk and RESPOND to things, i'd definitely be doing the same thing. i think that daniel's refusing to think about that because it hurts him that HE can't be the one she's responding to like that. in that way, he IS jealous IMO, but i still don't really take this video to be him whining or lying. he's not romantically jealous, so i think he's still being very sincere and the things he says in the end ARE true... he just needs to learn to be patient and communicate with the people around him.

anyway, that's my 2 cents- i tried to keep it brief- feel free to rip it apart

by the way, there's some really great advice on "deprogramming" coming up in the video threads- is any of it being passed along to the guys in IC chat? i haven't checked in awhile.

KatieInWonderland · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject:

P. Monkey completed my life.

I really don't think Daniel is helping that much though. I think Jonas's way of bringing Bree out of her shell is working much better than forcing the fact that the Hymn of One is a fake on her.
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Hannahbee · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject:

daniel's response actually reminds me of the way that one of my friends from school reacted when i got really close to somebody he'd introduced me to while simultaneously coming to realize that he and i were not at all as compatible as friends as i originally thought we were. it's obviously not a direct correlation but the point is- i'm straight, the guy was gay, and the new friend i made was another straight girl, so there was no ROMANTIC jealousy here, but the jealousy was still very intense and he was finding excuses for it just like daniel. i don't think that daniel and bree are incompatible like me and this guy, of course, but at the moment they are because of his blowups.

sorry, i'm bored and this just popped into my head... it may be totally useless information. Confused

longlostposter · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject:

OK, I'm going to stick my nose in here.

First of all, Bree is far from alright. Look at that vid again. She is like a child. The intelligence that used to behind those eyes is gone.

I think she is vulnerable, but I think Jonas is too. Jonas has made it obvious that he loves her. This is not just affection...the man is in love with her. He's as much as said so on several occasions, and if you go back to "Snow Angels" it's obvious even back then. This situation is fraught with problems. Jonas may take advantage of Bree without even seeing, or knowing, what he is doing. He sees what he hopes for...Bree reciprocating his love.

Next, is Daniel jealous? I think it's possible, but I think he sees the potential problems with the situation more clearly than Jonas does. He is also ready to kick some ass if he feels that Jonas crosses a line. I don't know what he's seen of them, but he fears that Jonas wants to get her in bed. I can't say as I blame him.

Summary: Bree and Jonas are both vulnerable right now, and could do some serious damage to each other. Jonas is not objective enough. Daniel may not be either, but he's certainly more objective than Jonas.

This is one fucked up situation. None of them are thinking clearly, and the dynamic is full of funk. Lemme outta here!
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watching_watchers · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject:

Watching now will edit when done. =]

edit- Okay so I really don't think Jonas is trying to take advantage of her. I think he just likes her so much and missed her so much that hes not paying as much attention to her actions as he should be and is just happy to have her there and wants to be hugging her and stuff. Ya know? But I really do understand where Daniel is coming from and I don't think hes jealous he didn't give me that vibe.
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I loved the P Monkey part!!! I don't think Jonas is taking advantage , I just think Bree needs to feel close to someone right now and she is clinging to Jonas. ( I know that's what I would be doing Rolling Eyes

) anyway I feel sorry for Daniel I'm sure he is wondering why Bree isnt clinging to him!
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tricky-ticky-tavi · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject:

This video did not do much for me. However, I am glad that Daniel opened up a bit and talked about the stress. He looked like he might cRaCk soon if he didn't. Deal w/ that -- a humming bree, a sad wittle Jonas, an indifferent Sarah, and a postal Daniel... Not awesome.
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PixieSailor · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject:

Everything I want to say has already been said by others, and it's only page three. I need to get more original opinions.
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