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wh_pirate · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject:

It's not on lg15.com and its not on revver.com, so where is everyone seeing the vid from?
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Aponi · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject:

Woah...I totally didn't expect a new vid today.
I would have thought two the past 2 days would mean waiting a day for this :-p
But i'm not complaining.

But i'm going to agree with Lurker (i'm too lazy to go back and find the post) in that they are both going about it the right and wrong ways.

Like, Jonas is doing good by seeming to calm her down, so at least she's not doing the crazy ( nevermind, i'm not even going to try and type like she did Razz

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But I think maybe a day or two more of this, letting her associate Jonas with goodness and fun, and then Jonas should start to gently mention things about the HoO, like DB did, saying they're bad, evil, don't exist, whatever. And if she gets too upset, just stopping it and getting her calmed down again.

...I just realized that's totally how you de-spook horses, if anyone knows what i'm talking about.
Oh well, maybe it will work.

And as for the 'taking advantage of' I think he is, a little, maybe, but it's not intentional and not mean-sprited or unhelpful. I don't think he's really going to 'take advantage of her' in a more real-world way...if that's confusing i'm sorry.
And I think DB is jealous, not that Bree might love Jonas and not him, but that now she seems to bond with Jonas, and not him, and he's said why that would hurt: she's his best friend. Its like, I think he would be ok with Bree and Jonas being toghether as long as she was still his best friend, and right now that's far from the case.
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Haether · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject:

yeah, like a lot of you on here I have to disagree with Daniel on Jonas taking advantage of Bree

guy having sex with a very intoxicated girl = taking advantage
borrowing money from someone who's trusting and generous with no intention to pay them back = taking advantage
Jonas giving his close friend a piggy back ride? yeah, no.

It's watching tv, hugs, piggy back rides...you could do all those things with your brother without someone thinking you're an incest loving freak. He's being caring and affectionate. Sarah's been a bad influence on Daniel--he's seriously taking a ride down the immature slide.
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Smelltheflowers · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject:

I would have to agree with much of what was already said. This video was just there and didn’t really invoke many feelings from me one way or the other.

I can't violently defend Jonas or Daniel as I think it's pretty obvious that neither are really spot on when it comes to helping Bree and seeing what is most important in the long run. They're both too concerned with their own little melodramas and personal agendas to see the big picture, which ultimately should be to help Bree finally extract herself from the clutches of The Order.

But really, what else is new?

As for Jonas 'taking advantage of Bree', the main thing that struck me was how serious an accusation this truly is. I hope that Daniel isn't just using it flippantly in a poorly masked fit of jealousy, as the idea of someone being taken advantage of is definitely not a laughing matter. It makes me really uncomfortable to think about, actually.

It does seem inappropriate for Jonas to be choosing now as his moment to cozy up to Bree. The period following a crisis or negative event in someone’s life is hardly the time to be making important decisions in one’s life (Including who to date, who to sleep with, etc) It’s pretty clear that Bree isn’t back to normal, as much as Jonas would probably like to believe otherwise. She seems to have the mentality and needs of a child, and hardly seems to be in the right state of mind to be making any sort of decisions or choices right now.

In some ways, though, I do agree that Jonas’ attentions do seem to be rated very PG. Is it because the Creators don’t want to include any overt sexuality, or is it simply because there isn’t that type of relationship between Jonas and Bree? The things they are doing together are hardly what one would consider shocking (Watching The Little Mermaid and piggy back rides in the woods) Perhaps Jonas’ intentions are admirable and he’s simply trying to edge Bree back into some sort of ‘normal’ life, doing every day things with her. I still think finding out Jonas and Bree are somehow related would be quite a twist (And would probably open up many doors for the plot in the future) so I’m not ready to rule out that possibility yet.

Although I can’t choose a ‘side’ one way or the other, I do think this video nicely sets up a conflict between Daniel and Jonas in the future. Here’s to hoping they don’t squander this perfect chance to really advance the plot! Wink

daydream183 · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject:

I just wonder if Bree is getting closer to Jonas to gain his trust so she can bolt as soon as he's not looking. Daniel is obviously already preoccupied with Sarah for the most part. If she can get Jonas to think that she's coming around then she'll have a chance to escape and run back to The Order. I don't know if she's capable of thinking like that in her child-like state, but I figure it's a good possibility.

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I agree with LLP that Bree is extremely vulnerable and childlike right now. I like Daniel's protectiveness and that he's not so caught up in Sarah that he can't think of Bree. I DO think he's jealous, because he wants his old best friend back. He wants the Bree back before she was brainwashed. Still, I feel like if Jonas were to have sex with Bree, there would be a MAJOR fight between them. She needs support and Jonas does not need to be selfish with her. I only pray that he's not!

I felt sad for Daniel in this video. After all, he's my all-time favorite guy.. Crying or Very sad

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kellylen · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject:

was it db playing with pmonkey with bree? or was it sarah. I couldnt tell. I'm hoping it was bree

this vid kinda bored me but thats ok.

I just hope it will all be ok in the end and that there wont be a rift in our crew.
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Mvidrine · Casual Observer Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 85

I think that Daniel is a little jealous of Jonas and still kinda desires Bree. That being said, I do think that something's not right. I theorize that it isn't Jonas taking advantage of Bree as much as it is Bree planning on taking advantage of Jonas. I think that she's not really completely deprgramed and will try to use the fact that Jonas is oblivious to this and is attracted to her to get him to place her in a situation where she could run back to the order

ApotheosisAZ · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject:

I really enjoy when they post a vlog where a character emotes and talks about how he/she really feels. I think it adds depth to the character.

I don't think that Jonas is taking advantage of Bree. He actually seems to be helping her. But, as Marbella said, if he did have a physical relationship with her in her present mental state, he would have a fight on his hands.
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EEVEE · Lonely Fan Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 243

Oh and I just wanted to give my opinion about the vid now

Yeah, it's definitely got to be said that Daniel at least is jealous that Jonas looks like he's getting through to Bree and not her best friend who she's been through the most with.
...............and come on ppl that's the DB doing the P. Monkey,
I also thought that was Bree at first controlling P. Monkey but afterwards it's obviously Sarah.

wh_pirate · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject:

Wow, that only took almost 5 pages and a lot of refreshing and retyping "lg15.com", but I finally got to see it.

I would have to agree with another poster who said that Daniel's sentance about him not liking her like that (or whatever the exact words were) was so not true.

I;m going to go back and read the posts now. I didn't want to before cause I didn't want to spoil myself.
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