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[Melaisis]

Does anyone but me believe that DB is looking more and more handsome with each new video? I think the longer hair and slight beard is really working for him.

Anyway, the rivalries between DB/Sarah and Jonas/Bree have become apparent. It seems now it's a square-off of 2 vs. 2; DB and Sarah ignoring Bree and believing she'll come around in her own time - whilst Jonas is actively trying to comfort LG; only to possiblity be manipulated?

[Hippie]

daniel IS jealous, that is obvious, though he may have a point in that which he says, i hope it is Bree that is using Jonas though, and not vice versa, Bree acting this whole time to lure Jonas in would be fantastic!

Im always wishing bad things upon BDJ, im terrible!!

[Laurin_B]

Let me just reiterate what has been said a few hundred times. I think the Creators have a very strong East Coast bias. Whenever a new video is released, I don't see it til the morning after (since it's usually at night) and then I have to read through 17 pages of posts to see if someone has already thought what I thought. ::breath::

That being said, I kind of agree with the whole Bree as grand manipulator theory. However, I want to throw this out there for all the conspiracy theorists.

What is this is HoO's plan? What is the whole thing is about a Bree-Jonas relationship? What if that's what they need? Then it would totally make sense that the hidden messages would relate directly to Jonas. He gets to save her! In the aftermath, their bond becomes tighter because Jonas is a good guy and he wants Bree to be back to "normal" and he'll do whatever he can. Bree "gradually" "gives in" to his efforts, cementing their bond. I mean, come on. Bree does a 180 that quickly? Negative.

This has been kind of danced around for a while, but that's what this video kind of said to me. I don't know if I believe it, but that's the first thing that popped into mind. Cause, you know, I'm extreme. (No.)
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[saralynn]

I agree with Daniel 110%.

Jonas is twitterpated and not thinking clearly -- and HE was mad at Daniel for painting Sarah's nails! While I agree that he should've been doing something slightly more productive, they can't ignore Sarah all together because she traveled all the way to get to Cali. The least they can do is amuse her a little.

Something is wrong with Bree. She's got one of her wires crossed, she's just really vulnerable and probably getting the wrong signals about who she used to be. I don't know, though, who knows what is going on in her head right now. I just know she's confused.

C'mon, Jonas, get it together.

[03-5484]

I think they are both so busy trying to get Bree back to her old self and fighting about which way to do it that they can't see they are going for the same goal....it doesn't matter who's way they take....they should try all of them TOGETHER.
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[saralynn]

I think he always will, but he's obviously trying to move on. Your first love is a pretty big deal, and I think no matter what he'll care deeply for Bree, but I think he's come to terms with him never having her that way.

I dunno, I want to believe Daniel. He'll never forget his past with her, but I want to believe he's truly moving past it and just being concerned for her as a friend.

Besides, Jonas got to bitch when he was making the moves on Alex.

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[BlackCatonMars]

Just adding my opinion, although from the looks of these posts it's not really needed.

I don't think Jonas is *consciouly* taking advantage of Bree. It looks to me like he's behaving around her the same way she did before she was taken and looking for the positive response of her laughing. He may be being too affectionate but not realizing it. I seriously doubt he'd really go to far, and if he did I'd be very disappointed in him and the creators. That being said, all the things he was doing with her in the video, I noticed, were all things recommened by people in the chat (I'd say "we" but since I never made it IN to the chat...), like watching movies and going hiking...well they didn't seem to be doing that much hiking, but at least they were outside.

I don't think Daniel is jealous because he still has feelings for Bree...that just doesn't ring true for me. I think he's actually frustated because he sees Jonas as being too affectionate with someone who's not currently able of protecting themselves at the moment.

I think it's important for them to spend some time bonding with Bree and making her laugh and such because they need her to be willing to listen when they try and persuade her to turn against the Order and that the HoO isn't real. Earlier she wasn't responding at all, and while smiles and laughter may not be deprogramming her it means she could be more willing to listen (or at least watch all the old videos instead of staring off into space). I think Daniel and Jonas just need to stop complaining about what they think the other is doing wrong, suck it up and admit they've both made mistakes in their approach, and work together on this.

They also need to watch out in case Bree tries to run on them or in another way betray them, as I seriously doubt she's anywhere near as back to normal as she looks in this vid. I think it would be interesting if the Order were intending on having them kidnap Bree so that she'd lead them back to Jonas and kill two birds with one stone (although I'd have to wonder at the elaborateness of their plot). I doubt that Bree has been instructed to infiltrate them, however. I just feel that if they're convincing her that she belongs to this great religion that they'd then tell her they want her to help them kidnap someone and do all this acting. I suppose if she was really thoroughly brainwashed she'd have no problem with that, but I think it's an unlikely possibility. I think if this is the case they're relying on her state of mind and her belief that the HoO is good in the hopes she'll run away and betray her captors, therefore leading them to Jonas (and Daniel?).

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