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Gidget Devoted Fan
Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 596 Location: Right behind you
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:40 am Post subject: Statutory |
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Sorry if this was mentioned already, but I realized that if Jonas and Bree did indeed sleep together it would be statutory rape. Jonas is 19 and Bree is 17.
The creators have mentioned statutory rape in the video "Entertaining Myself"
Sarah: Does he know that he can get arrested in like fifty states for even touching you?
Taylor: He's only seventeen, he won't be eighteen for like, two months.
So yeah. Thats some legal no no there.
Hopefully this is a line that was not crossed. |
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deagol Thor's Hammer
Joined: 28 Oct 2006 Posts: 1068 Location: No, not here.
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Maybe they're back in Nevada... |
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Killthesmiley The Order of Denderah
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 4732 Location: Halifax NS Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Isn't the age down there 16 for stat? _________________ kelly
YOU: Who does that KTS think she is? Total bitch!
ME: I think I'm you, only better.
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archangelica Casual Observer
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 38
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:58 am Post subject: |
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California has really weird statutory rape laws. I think I remember that it is illegal for minors to have sex with each other as well.
And I'm not too certain that the penalties for statutory rape in California are very impressive, at all. |
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rupaZer0 Lonely Fan
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 205 Location: Rotherham, UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Is statutory rape law ever enforced when the age difference is so low? I mean, it's not like he's an actual perv who preys on young girls. They're good friends who are about the same age who have been getting closer for the past few months. There's clearly no crime here.
I've always found this a tricky subject. Every now and then, the law is going to have its failings - it's important that the age of consent line is drawn somewhere, but that doesn't mean we have to be pedantic about it, right? _________________ Cut scene to BDJ in a lubed-up cuddlefest. |
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Skunkwaffle Enthusiastic Fan
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 460 Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: |
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I could be wrong here, but I believe there is some kind of provision for just this situation. Something along the lines of: if the age difference is 4 years or less, then it's okay, even if one is under the legal age and one is over. _________________ Yeah, you got... stuck a fish in the face. |
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Languorous Lass The Order of Denderah
Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 2571 Location: Gone, baby, gone
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Skunkwaffle wrote: | I could be wrong here, but I believe there is some kind of provision for just this situation. Something along the lines of: if the age difference is 4 years or less, then it's okay, even if one is under the legal age and one is over. |
In California? Or in New York?
Statutory rape is covered by state law. Which means that the requirements differ from state to state. |
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kellylen The Order of Denderah
Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 2823 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:03 am Post subject: |
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sat rape differs from state to state. I know in NJ it is under 16 and over 18 or with a 3 year different. so if you are 17 and the person is 20 it is still sat rape. _________________ -Kelly |
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Killthesmiley The Order of Denderah
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 4732 Location: Halifax NS Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:36 am Post subject: |
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well they just released someone from jail that is under the same circumstances stating habious corpus (did i spell that right Lass??????) _________________ kelly
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Languorous Lass The Order of Denderah
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Killthesmiley wrote: | well they just released someone from jail that is under the same circumstances stating habious corpus (did i spell that right Lass??????) |
It's "habeus corpus," actually. But I'm impressed you even knew the term.
And I'm not sure what you're saying, Kelly. Somebody just got let out of jail? What state was that in? |
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nicole_x Enthusiastic Fan
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 352 Location: Bora Bora
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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It's Habeas Corpus, luv.
Do you know if it was ad subjiciendum? |
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Laurin_B Devoted Fan
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Ok. Apparently, there is no acceptable difference clause in the CA stat rape law. Anyone having sex with a minor can be prosecuted. However, it's only a misdemeanor if there age difference is less than 3 years. Anything more can be a felony.
While I'm personally so pleased that everyone is concerned for Bree's well-being, I hope this issue can be over now. It's pretty obvious that no one was coerced here.
Plus, aren't there more important things to consider? Like, when is Bree going to stop being a run-away addict? _________________ "And then Max cried 'Let the wild rumpus start!'"
"Bee-otch" ~Bumblebee
"You a-holes are in trouble now. Gentlemen, I'd like you to meet my friend--Optimus Prime." ~Sam, Transformers
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BrightSilence Devoted Fan
Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 619 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: |
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I know the law here in the Netherlands is you are allowed to have sex when you are either older than 18 or your partner is and the age difference is at most 2 years. So 16 would be legal if you have sex with an 18 year old.
However, when you do have sex with a minor that is more than 2 years younger someone has to protest and file a complaint. That person can ofcourse be the minor or his/her parents. I'm not quite sure if it can be a stranger aswell. I think they at least need to have prove that they know the minor... |
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kellylen The Order of Denderah
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: |
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you dont need to be coerced though for it to be sat rape. even if both sides are consentual it is considered it _________________ -Kelly |
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Languorous Lass The Order of Denderah
Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 2571 Location: Gone, baby, gone
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:14 am Post subject: |
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nicole_x wrote: | It's Habeas Corpus, luv. |
I knew I should have looked it up in the dictionary.
Let this be a lesson to all of you. |
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