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Sfonzarelli Devoted Fan
Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 580
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: Why does everyone sympathize with Daniel? |
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He's really getting on my nerves. He's become a paranoid dick. In the latest video, he BREAKS INTO A PRIVATE RESIDENCE (It's not so much the criminality of the act, I would be one to talk, but more the paranoid dickishness of it) to look at Lucy's computer. When he finds out that Bree's religious organization has a couple of pictures of HIM EVESDROPING ON THEIR PRIVATE RELIGIOUS CEREMONY, he runs home and says "OMG WHAT DO THEY WANT FROM ME?" Daniel, two things:
A) Trying not speaking entirely in clichés
B) I'm not sure if you've noticed, but you're the one who's obsessive-compulsively stalking your ex-girlfriend, spying on her, recording videos of her while spying on her and uploading it onto the Internet, and breaking into her friends' houses to rummage through their stuff. I'd say they're the ones who should be saying "WHAT DOES HE WANT FROM US?"
Also, Daniel, in case you don't know, when you commit an illegal activity, it's a good idea not to upload a video of you doing it onto The Internet. And why are you so amazed they saw you at their ceremony. You have the grace of a hippo, plus you uploaded footage of yourself at their ceremony onto The Internet. And while we're at it, ever heard of night-vision cameras?
Daniel is a silly man and he always seems like he's either gone all night without sleep or is high on crystal meth. Never in between! And he has "Watchmen" listed in his YouTube profile. Newsflash, Daniel! Alan Moore is a Thelemite. You probably don't want to save him from his evil religion because he's a big hairy man and not a girl who will possibly sleep with you. There are other fish in the sea, Daniel. The ship has sailed. _________________ I've got a Morse Code anagram for you to decode, Cassie:
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Brucker Casual Observer
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I can't quite figure out Daniel, either. The guy gets offended when his girlfriend refuses to go out with him on one of her religious holidays, thinks he's a big hero because he attended a public event, and freaks out because Bree is leaving the house with someone other than himself.
Now, after sneaking around and taking videos of a ceremony he wasn't supposed to be at and breaking into somebody's house, he's upset because somebody took some pictures of him? |
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Jenna Casual Observer
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 41
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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I can clearly see why people are sympathising with Daniel. I mean, he's just going to the extremes to try and protect Bree. They have no right to try and track him, and I can see why he's scared. |
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Sfonzarelli Devoted Fan
Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 580
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Jenna wrote: | I can clearly see why people are sympathising with Daniel. I mean, he's just going to the extremes to try and protect Bree. They have no right to try and track him, and I can see why he's scared. |
Some could argue that he has no right to invade the privacy of some girl he has a crush on just because her religious beliefs are unorthodox. _________________ I've got a Morse Code anagram for you to decode, Cassie:
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spaciegirlreturn The Order of Denderah
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 2767 Location: Jupiter
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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I think if you look at from a different point of view, what he's done isn't bad but good. What if Bree really is in trouble and needs to be saved? Her parents don't seem to be alarmed by anything that has happened so far..and she doesn't have any other friends. If he is honestly worried about her, what else is he supposed to do..tell the cops or his parents? I think that he is worried and believes Bree still likes him and is being mis-giuded or manipulated. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with anything he's done so far- so don't anyone flip out on me, I'm just saying that I think that's the point of view he's coming from. And I know that being worried about someone doesn't justify breaking in to someone's apartment...but he's young and dumb right? I did a lot of stupid shit when I was his age..especially when it came to "love" (or whatever you would call the stupid, immature interaction I had with boys back then) _________________ Me and my key...same as it ever was. |
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Sfonzarelli Devoted Fan
Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 580
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not criticizing his methods but his motivation. Is he concerned that she's being "brainwashed", or that she's being brainwashed by a group that's "weird"? If she was a Methodist, would he care? _________________ I've got a Morse Code anagram for you to decode, Cassie:
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Brucker Casual Observer
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 91
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, if he thinks she's in trouble, of course he's going to be concerned, but personally, I see virtually no evidence for that from the videos.
What did he find out about the ceremony? That Bree might have to walk back and forth in a straight line and speak a funny language? In my own life, I've done more dangerous things for two different mainstream religions, and I doubt anyone cares. |
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DontHaveAClue Devoted Fan
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 873
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Sfonzarelli wrote: | I'm not criticizing his methods but his motivation. Is he concerned that she's being "brainwashed", or that she's being brainwashed by a group that's "weird"? If she was a Methodist, would he care? |
I don't know.....but I care for my friends. And hell yeah, I would do stupid things to get them out of it if I thought they were in danger. Do you have friends? |
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Amara Suspiciously Absent
Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 17
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Sfonzarelli wrote: | I'm not criticizing his methods but his motivation. Is he concerned that she's being "brainwashed", or that she's being brainwashed by a group that's "weird"? If she was a Methodist, would he care? |
I'm pretty sure it's the fact that these people force her to have a certain diet, get certain shots, and oh yes lets not forget the strange night time ceremonies....if she were Methodist I'm sure they wouldn't be doing these things....
The guy is just really really curious about her religion...and such... _________________ Keep the Dream Alive! Power and Chaos!
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The Lovely Miss M. Casual Observer
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 27
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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"Really curious" is like the understatement of the century.
The guy is a stalker, and that's creepy. |
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Sfonzarelli Devoted Fan
Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 580
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Amara wrote: | I'm pretty sure it's the fact that these people force her to have a certain diet |
You mean like Orthodox Judaism? Or Catholicism? Or Yoga? Or basically any functional religion because diet is an important part of physical health which is an important part of spiritual development? _________________ I've got a Morse Code anagram for you to decode, Cassie:
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glowe126 Enthusiastic Fan
Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 364 Location: NoHo
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: something bad is going to happen |
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Even Bree admits that something bad is going to happen to him if he doesn't stop. I like Daniel and I hope he saves Bree. |
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Sfonzarelli Devoted Fan
Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 580
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: something bad is going to happen |
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glowe126 wrote: | Even Bree admits that something bad is going to happen to him if he doesn't stop. I like Daniel and I hope he saves Bree. |
Something bad would happen to him if I found him breaking into my apartment and rummaging through my computer files too... _________________ I've got a Morse Code anagram for you to decode, Cassie:
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Cassies_Head Casual Observer
Joined: 15 Sep 2006 Posts: 28 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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I've gotta say I agree with you, Daniel is just irratating me at the moment. |
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