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trainer101 · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: Chapter II Official Announcement

Jeromy's Blog - PLEASE READ

http://www.12thstreethouse.com/12thstreethousedir/blog/12thstreetblog.html
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sparkybennett · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject:

thanks trainer.
it helps to know this is really chapter 2

" the stakes are high and we need to work faster. I can say that it helps that Maddison died last time."

talk about creating a sense of urgency

even if I don't like the girl, I can't watch another one get killed....

time to take this seriously!
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kellylen · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject:

eeppppppp
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Luminous · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject:

Umm - back track a little on that url and take a look under the who -

http://www.12thstreethouse.com/12thstreethousedir/who.html

Oh yea!
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TOSG · Devoted Fan Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 651

Sounds like we had better get our asses in gear.
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trainer101 · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject:

chershaytoute · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject:

Do click through, btw, to My Web Page. Not only will you do, you'll see lots of good Maddy stuff under See Our Work...but you're gonna love WHO all you'll see under the Who We Are link (hint: check out the LAST face on the right that you can hover over <smile>)...
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LesterG · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject:

*Pumps fist and gets back to comp*

back to work you grunts Razz

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Luminous · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject:

Aja · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject:

Interesting news, that's for sure.
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Jeromy · Casual Observer Joined: 01 May 2007 Posts: 123

Respectfully, I don't want you all to get the wrong impression.

Keep in mind that the 12th street house web page was designed to put my best foot forward to advertisers.

So..... draw your own conclusions.

chershaytoute · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject:

Jeromy, darlin', you KNOW we dig! Wink

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JenniPowell · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject:

This is too weird for me...

Okay, back to work.
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QtheC · Enthusiastic Fan Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 374

I don't have a set-in-stone opinion about this, just an impression, so this is subject to shift...

I have a feeling that as great as the Maddison Atkins creation has been, that there is a bit of an expectation disconnect. This is a tricky issue so bear with me.

I imagine Jeromy spending hundreds of hours thinking about, organizing, writing, interacting, etc. etc. to put all this together. Then he starts sending the results our way, and we are, at times, just not giving the response he expects.

I got this sense of this disconnect first in the way Ch 1 ended with the implication that fans did not work hard enough or fast enough to solve puzzles and "save" Maddision. During the aftermath of Chapter 1, Jeromy expressed views that certain puzzles were "easy" (e.g. regarding Mr. Zipp and the Dr. Seuss books), yet I don't think the drop materials have been fully understood or solved even in the weeks following. My sense is that part of the problem may be that as a puzzle/plot designer, it's hard to realize the incredible multitude of possibilities the audience dreams up when trying to find THE solution. Sometimes things are not as obvious to us as they seem like they should be, because we see too many possibilities.

Jeromy also said we needed to be asking different questions such as "Who?" and "Why?" and "How?" rather than just "What happened?"

Has this happened? I think we are trying, but it feels like we are not getting to the answers Jeromy intends.

So to me, there is a disconnect. And it's tricky because how do you interpret and respond to puzzles not being solved or storylines understood as expected when you are the puppet master for an ARG?

When amblyopianne complained here on the forums that we offered to help but were not really helping, that seemed like another way (like asking those who/what/where/why/when/how questions) to get fans to figure something out or take actions that we were not taking.

Is it working? If it's not, what else should we or Jeromy do to make it work?

Recently, amblyopianne in chat expressed the opinion that "Mr. Zipp" (not the killer or Joel Frady) killed Maddison and Adam and just wanted an audience for this murder. This is from the mouth of a character, so may be indirection, but the conclusion that Mr. Zipp = the killer is not one we had solidly reached to my knowledge*. Is this something we are supposed to "know" and assume at this point? (*I could have missed something, of course, so feel free to correct me here).

So I already had the impression that Jeromy was a little impatient with the audience response, and now today I read on his blog (albeit aimed at advertisers) the message