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robtomorrow Devoted Fan

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: |
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I wonder if Jonas is going to be an easy out.
What do you do when you are on the run from an evil cult, your parents have been kidnapped and you are almost out of money? Well, you go stay with a richie rich friend of course!
I also wonder it "Jonas" had anything to do with the the recent controversy regarding Yousef thinking he was going to have to look for another job. |
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GoodGollyItsHolly P. Monkey's Agent

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:40 am Post subject: |
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robtomorrow wrote: | I wonder if Jonas is going to be an easy out.
What do you do when you are on the run from an evil cult, your parents have been kidnapped and you are almost out of money? Well, you go stay with a richie rich friend of course!
I also wonder it "Jonas" had anything to do with the the recent controversy regarding Yousef thinking he was going to have to look for another job. |
Nice! Someone has their thinking cap on
It seems entierly possible.. _________________ Im sorry; you must have mistaken me for someone else. My name is Anastasia Beaverhousen.
Jonas Is OBSESSED!!
http://one.revver.com/watch/297382/flv/affiliate/48242 |
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justapix Casual Observer
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:01 am Post subject: |
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Its disappointing to see where this is all headed before it get even close to happening, but might as well be one of the first one's to say it, because at least I'll have that going for me once I am thoroughly disappointed that it has come to pass.
Jonas is canon, point blank, no if ands or buts about it. I know, I am not any happier about it then you are. But everything fits too perfectly for it not to be true. I won’t rehash what other people have already said in the forum, it’s obvious, for no other reason then he IS the male version of Bree.
Now enough of why Jonas is canon, let talk about how he fits into the story and why. There is no driving drama right now in the story. The being "on the run" has turned into a one trick pony for the creators, you can only show them running away from "The Order" for so long with nothing happening, they need to find a way out. They need new blood that can actually interact with our main characters; Gemma can only do so much for being in "London".
First there is the fact that they need to get Bree and Daniel "off the road" so to speak, and into a stationary location. There needs to be more development of the story and they haven't been able to do that "on the run". Jonas fills this role.
Jonas "its pretty nice having a big house to myself, lots of place's to play, but ahh... kinda boring... kinda lonely" in "Bored at Home"
So Jonas fills the role of having a location for them to crash at.
Second, Bree and Daniel are not getting along right in the story, they are probably sick of being around each other by now, and in the middle of this you introduce a new male lead, who by letting them stay at his house takes on the role as the savior, and new male interest for Bree thus creating one of the best things in any drama, a love Triangle. The introduction of Jonas could also be the reason why Yueself thought he was leaving the series.
Third, Jonas will be the proverbial wrench in the well greased gears that are Bree and Daniel. His character will allow for a whole slew "He said, She said" videos that are the essence of what vlogging is about anyways. Think MTV RealWorld, or RoadRules Challenge, where we get to hear one person whine about another person, and then that person getting upset about the vlog, and replying to it. So basically Bree and Daniel will start to fight, and Jonas will start to move in and be a "really good friend" to Bree, Daniel will get jealous.
Fourth during this whole time we will get updates about "The Order" and more clues as to what’s going on. Jonas will get pulled deeper into the Bree and Daniel'verse. * And offering more and more help as thing progress, maybe we will find out that Jonas's parents or dad are some way involved, at the very least more about his past and then we will hear something about Bree's parents and it will be their time to chase "The Order". And of course at this point Jonas will be too involved in everything just to let them go by themselves.
Okay everything after the * is really pure speculation, because at that point the creators would have written themselves out of the bottle neck they had gotten into and maybe taken the story in a new direction.
That’s it folk welcome to our new world...
On another note, Jonas or the actor that plays Jonas or the Creators or whoever is reading this the most entertaining point about this whole Jonas character so far for me was the last 2-3 seconds of this video when the actor drops his guard and we get to see the real person behind those eyes, its like a moment of vulnerability or something that is just amazing and maybe if he can bring that out in the rest of this character we might but be in for one hell of a ride,
But if in two videos all we got where 2-3 seconds of entertainment from we might be in for a long winter of watching head stands and Daniel reading comic books...
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HyeMew Moderator
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:17 am Post subject: |
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justapix wrote: | Second, Bree and Daniel are not getting along right in the story, they are probably sick of being around each other by now, and in the middle of this you introduce a new male lead, who by letting them stay at his house takes on the role as the savior, and new male interest for Bree thus creating one of the best things in any drama, a love Triangle. The introduction of Jonas could also be the reason why Yueself thought he was leaving the series. |
Justapix, your analysis was extremely probable and so amazingly indepth yet sensible that it's frightening! Amazing job filling in the missing pieces. You said everything I was thinking and then so much more. The paragraph quoted above was especially inciteful.
I mean seriously, I thought from the second I saw him that he was canon (though prayed this wasn't the case). It was just too "good", the camera quality and cut scenes, not to be involved. That said, the writing is outrageously subpar and Jonas's introductory video had the charming wit of a crab. That "My name is Jonas" stuff was about the least engaging or interesting minute in all of youtube history. At least they kind of hit a stride a bit better with the writing in episode 2, I almost laughed at the imaginary golf ball quip (though there was a ball so I didn't understand it at second though), however it's still sloppy. And uninteresting. And disturbing that a guy like Jonas actually acts like the male version of a young innocent a.k.a. Bree girl. It comes off as really disconcerting, it's like he has a serious case of arrested development yet has free range of this big fun house.. sounds like something from a movie, like what, Willy Wonka or something?
Bottom line is just as justapix said, this appears to be so transparently and blatantly canon that it's almost unthinkable. And I certainly don't want to believe that... _________________ Check out: Funniest LG15-related episode... ever?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ6kBdNegfs
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DontHaveAClue Devoted Fan

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:54 am Post subject: |
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HyeMew wrote: | justapix wrote: | Second, Bree and Daniel are not getting along right in the story, they are probably sick of being around each other by now, and in the middle of this you introduce a new male lead, who by letting them stay at his house takes on the role as the savior, and new male interest for Bree thus creating one of the best things in any drama, a love Triangle. The introduction of Jonas could also be the reason why Yueself thought he was leaving the series. |
Justapix, your analysis was extremely probable and so amazingly indepth yet sensible that it's frightening! |
Yes, indeed. After reading this post, I'm starting to think that, if I may put it this way, Jonas is getting all canon on us. (not sure what that means though) |
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HyeMew Moderator
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:58 am Post subject: |
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He's only got about 300 views on his latest video right now, at this point I'm just hoping that nobody notices and that he doesn't catch on. It's only a matter of time though, esp. when he starts getting his videos put on the main page..
I'm just wondering how they will get them from the motel to his house. I can't imagine any possible way that'd be good. (Randomly meeting him... in the motel room and he inviting them back to his place? Daniel suddenly remembering he has a friend out in the "middle of nowhere" they are supposed to be hiding out in? Or they go on the run again and break down in front of Jonas's house, go in to use the phone and see a bunch of monsters dancing around doing the Time Warp? Whichever way, I can't imagine one that doesn't look "forced", so to speak.)
Just noticed in episode 1 he says how he watches the lonelygirl15 and danielbeast stuff, so it's clear he doesn't know them. Yet. That eliminates a good deal of possible ways they could actually meet up and have it make sense. Now I realllly hope it's not canon, because seriously, what in the world are the odds that you, as a LG fan, would suddenly have LG and Daniel break down in front of your house or something and hide out there for awhile? The odds are NILL. So either Jonas is not canon, or he's going to be utilized as an internet commenter like Gemma. They don't need that though, and the complete inactivity of these first couple videos definitely implies they are setting up for some real action, so if Bree & Daniel somehow end up at his house... then that'd be about the most stupid twist in vlog history. If this does happen, I will make this quote my signature for everyone to see.. over and over.. _________________ Check out: Funniest LG15-related episode... ever?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ6kBdNegfs
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DontHaveAClue Devoted Fan

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:59 am Post subject: Re: jonas |
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gogo wrote: |
I'm not sure why he's such a big frustration to some. A character lacking responsibility (no school, work, etc.) allows for the possibility of involvement (since he doesn't seem to have anything else to do). |
I do have to agree. He's the stereotype of the rich brat with way too much time on his hands and endless possibilities at being the hero of the story. Also, he is conveniently lonely, no attach whatsoever, no job, no school, barely a few friends. It's way too cliche for not being canon in the Bree universe. |
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HyeMew Moderator
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:04 am Post subject: Re: jonas |
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DontHaveAClue wrote: | gogo wrote: |
I'm not sure why he's such a big frustration to some. A character lacking responsibility (no school, work, etc.) allows for the possibility of involvement (since he doesn't seem to have anything else to do). |
I do have to agree. He's the stereotype of the rich brat with way too much time on his hands and endless possibilities at being the hero of the story. Also, he is conveniently lonely, no attach whatsoever, no job, no school, barely a few friends. It's way too cliche for not being canon in the Bree universe. |
Well the frusteration, besides the fact that of course he IS a spoiled rich good-for-nothing brat whose never worked a day in his life (unless you like that...), is the fact he's so blatantly lonely. I mean God, he came right out and mumbled "I'm lonely ". Bree never did that. I mean she talked about her situation to us, not having friends, but she was never BLATANT about it. Everything that Jonas needed us to learn about his character was not obtained through watching him and getting to know his character, it was because he came right out and told us! What's the fun in that?
"Hi I've got no job. Hi my parents are never home, I'm all alone in this big huge house with nothing to do. I'm lonely. I have no friends. I've never worked. I don't go to school. I have no ties to the real world and appear to be confined to this house, almost as if it's some sort of parallel fantasy world. Even though I appear to be at least 21, I also am utterly incapable of helping my situation even the slightest and have a list of possible activities I can choose from each day that is so short I can count it on one hand. I tend to do so in a given day that my vloggers will have to poke me with a stick periodically to make sure I'm still breathing. I am, in essense, the 'no man'."
It makes me want to scream. _________________ Check out: Funniest LG15-related episode... ever?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ6kBdNegfs
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DontHaveAClue Devoted Fan

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:12 am Post subject: Re: jonas |
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HyeMew wrote: |
It makes me want to scream. |
It does!  |
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DontHaveAClue Devoted Fan

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:48 am Post subject: |
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HyeMew wrote: | and see a bunch of monsters dancing around doing the Time Warp? |
Nope. Those things are Cult-Movie material. LG15 is far from that point yet.
Let's see how our loser-with-piercing-eyes new friend can come into play.... Obviously, despite the scenery of the first vid, he's clearly not the librarian type, not a Cult chaser either, he's the Luke Perry type in Beverly Hills. A bit nonchalant, a bit modern dandy. (Two ladies just passed out in the audience.) This type of character generally stumbles into the story, they don't look for trouble but get into anyway. He's not going to contact Bree and Daniel, they'll bump into each other. "While running away from the watchers, Daniel crashes the car in the garden door of Jonas" type of first meeting. I can only imagine they meet accidentally. That's got to happen in his neighborhood. The Golf Club or something like that. "While hiding in a bush from the watchers, Daniel gets knocked out by a golf ball" type of first meeting. (I'm really bored at work).
"Leeeet's dooo the Tiiiiiiime warp agaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain"  |
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sparkybennett Devoted Fan

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:19 am Post subject: |
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I like Jonas, and there may be a few others who do also.
I think most can agree that Bree and Daniel need to do something soon. They can only do the hotel thing so long. It's clear there will be no authorities involved. I don't think they will fly to London.
I am sure the Creators can come up with something to involve Jonas in the story.
The connection could be through his parents as someone suggested.
Also it has been jokingly suggested a few times that Bree and Daniel hide out at a forum members house. I think TWJ and Greystoke were mentioned
Bree and Daniel post on this board. If Jonas were to invite them over via the forum it wouldn't be completely crazy(IMO).
He may not have a job, but he has a certain something that will keep me watching.
And really who can resist a love triangle! |
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DontHaveAClue Devoted Fan

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: |
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sparkybennett wrote: | I like Jonas, and there may be a few others who do also. |
Perv!*
*I remember not so long ago, when a few of us, worthy men, had the unfortunate idea to comment lightly on Gemma's looks. We got treated like perverted wankers. Someone even told me "stop saying she's beautiful, it's not porn!". But I guess the situation regarding jonas is completely different, isn't it?  |
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sparkybennett Devoted Fan

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:38 am Post subject: |
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 _________________ "Children analyze fantasy. They know you're kidding them. There's got to be logic in the way you kid them. Their fun is pretending...making believe they believe it." Dr Seuss |
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twjaniak Devoted Fan

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:40 am Post subject: |
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sparkybennett wrote: |
Also it has been jokingly suggested a few times that Bree and Daniel hide out at a forum members house. I think TWJ and Greystoke were mentioned
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I can just imagine an LG15/LG cross-over...
LG15: Soooo.... Lord Greystoke is showing Daniel how to polish a gun.
(Pan over to LG who is demonstrating his cleaning technique, while Daniel finishes off a gallon of Blue Bunny Mint Chocolate Chip)
LG15: Despite the aluminum foil walls, this is actually one of the nicer rooms we've stayed if for a while. Owen and Thor have made a new friend, but P. Monkey isn't really thrilled with the situation.
(Pan over to LG's dog who is presently using P. Monkey as a chew toy. Stuffing is strewn all over the floor)
(Cut to LG who notices something on Bree's back)
LG: HEY, BREE? WHAT'S THAT MARK ON YOUR BACK?
(Bree looking uncomfortable)
LG: YOU'RE A WATCHER!
(LG grabs the gun from Daniel, who had just began to practice cleaning it. Bree yelps as she knocks over the webcam. The sounds of a struggle off camera can be heard)
End Scene _________________ My LG15 Video Responses |
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sparkybennett Devoted Fan

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: |
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twjaniak wrote: | sparkybennett wrote: |
Also it has been jokingly suggested a few times that Bree and Daniel hide out at a forum members house. I think TWJ and Greystoke were mentioned
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I can just imagine an LG15/LG cross-over...
LG15: Soooo.... Lord Greystoke is showing Daniel how to polish a gun.
(Pan over to LG who is demonstrating his cleaning technique, while Daniel finishes off a gallon of Blue Bunny Mint Chocolate Chip)
LG15: Despite the aluminum foil walls, this is actually one of the nicer rooms we've stayed if for a while. Owen and Thor have made a new friend, but P. Monkey isn't really thrilled with the situation.
(Pan over to LG's dog who is presently using P. Monkey as a chew toy. Stuffing is strewn all over the floor)
(Cut to LG who notices something on Bree's back)
LG: HEY, BREE? WHAT'S THAT MARK ON YOUR BACK?
(Bree looking uncomfortable)
LG: YOU'RE A WATCHER!
(LG grabs the gun from Daniel, who had just began to practice cleaning it. Bree yelps as she knocks over the webcam. The sounds of a struggle off camera can be heard)
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as the scene ends, pan to OWen's face....with a big smirk, and a wink !  _________________ "Children analyze fantasy. They know you're kidding them. There's got to be logic in the way you kid them. Their fun is pretending...making believe they believe it." Dr Seuss |
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