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EliCash Lonely Fan
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 173
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: Open letter to the Creators - Daniel should ditch Bree |
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Dear Creators,
Thank you for crafting a story we all love, with characters we all care about.
That said, the LG series has come to a very important fork in the road. Given your talk about the importance of interactivity in developing the story, I felt a responsibility to speak up as a fan.
Of course, in no way do I represent all -- or even the majority -- of fans. Yet I suggest the following course that I believe is best for the series to take:
Daniel must ditch Bree and go on the offensive.
Showing B&D running from the Watchers was important -- and fun. We have learned a lot since they began, and as a result, we have recognized the seriousness of their situation.
At the same time, everything that I love about B&D has been missing for quite some time, and I want to see the old Bree and the old Daniel once again.
1. Bree
I'm not full of praise about the way Bree has carried herself. In my opinion, she has displayed selfishness and cowardice when her parents needed her the most. In short, she has acted like the 16-year-old that she is.
Her parents are in somebody's trunk right now, but I'm not going to pretend that Bree is the kind of kid who can deal with that type of pain in a responsible way. So let Bree be Bree, I say, and allow her to stay with Jonas.
In effect, this will take us back to the happy and carefree days of the series, when "Proving Science Wrong" won the hearts and minds of Bree lovers everywhere. Unlike Daniel, Jonas won't forcefully challenge Bree to deal with her pain. Sure, there will be the occasional cry-fest, as both talk about missing their parents. Maybe the truth about how Jonas' parents went missing will come out, as well (i.e. Is Jonas "Sam?" Did the Order actually take his parents away?).
Allow Bree to stay with Jonas, and we will have won back the old Bree, rather than the Bree that actually pushes away the camera Daniel was holding and, in effect, insult her many fans.
Can Jonas be trusted? I have no idea, and my working assumption is that she cannot trust him. Nevertheless, it appears that the Order doesn't want her dead. Instead, they want her to go through ceremony freely. That means she can be there safely for at least some period of time.
2. Daniel
Like Bree, I'm not full of praise about the way Daniel has handled himself. Where is the courage (and recklessness) that Daniel exhibited when he broke into Lucy's in order to dig up information about the girl he loves? Why has Daniel suddenly become more concerned with his own life?
This is not the same Daniel that spent sleepless nights researching Bree's "religion" in an effort to save her from it. This is not the same Daniel that risked his safety in order to protect Bree, by leaving his family and everything he has to run away with her.
In fact, now he talks about retreating, and giving it all up. This is not the same Daniel who we all love. No. The Daniel so many of us identified with has disappeared right along with the old Bree.
But in ditching Bree, there's an opportunity.
3. Solution
The truth is, sadly enough, that Bree is dead weight. It is impossible to go on the offensive as long as she is around. If they are to resolve this situation for the better, it will only happen DESPITE Bree.
Daniel must, once again, break into Lucy's computer to discover more information (about Bree's parents and also their own situation). He must start watching the Watchers, and learning from it. He must take action, despite the girl he loves frolicking around with some lame skateboarder that cannot be trusted.
It's certainly in his character to do so. The last time, when Bree was done with Daniel and angrily told him to stop following her, Daniel stood strong. He'll have the same painful times he had before, when many of looked upon Daniel with a sense of pity.
But that's what guys like Daniel do. And in the end, we can only hope this American hero gets the girl.
Respectfully,
EliCash
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omegawoman Enthusiastic Fan

Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 478 Location: On my husband's shit list
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hell no!!!! Daniel is upset now and rightly so. Bree is under stress and scared. Both are handling things they way most young adults would. We see that.
It is extremely against Daniel's character for him to ditch Bree. He has been there for her the whole time. He has truly been a good friend.
I realize with the holiday's approaching, some writing is going to have to be done to explain some characters being away with family. If Daniel ditches Bree, make it for some other reason other than he is just tired of it all. Maybe he is watching from a distance, or only temporarily away.
Having him leave her to go back to the innocent "Proving Science Wrong" during the middle of all this turmoil would be totally unrealistic. _________________ I'm already visualizing you with duct tape over your mouth |
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EliCash Lonely Fan
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | It is extremely against Daniel's character for him to ditch Bree. He has been there for her the whole time. He has truly been a good friend. |
I admit that my "ditch Bree" was sensationalism, when in fact I argued that he should only ditch her in the sense that he should push for Bree to stay with Jonas.
In reality, though, he would not be "ditching" her, given that he would still be trying to get to the bottom of it all. By reading what I wrote for "the solution," that becomes clear.
In fact, I would argue that he is only being a good friend IF he does what I suggest. That's a strong statement, I know.
Quote: | Having him leave her to go back to the innocent "Proving Science Wrong" during the middle of all this turmoil would be totally unrealistic. |
A week or so ago, Bree was laughing it up with her stuffed animals. She cannot deal with this situation maturely. It's safe to say that without Daniel's influence, she will go back to dealing with it by retreating to her make-believe world of purple monkeys. It's unrealistic to expect otherwise from Bree, given the way she has acted in the past. |
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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EliCash wrote: | Quote: | Having him leave her to go back to the innocent "Proving Science Wrong" during the middle of all this turmoil would be totally unrealistic. |
A week or so ago, Bree was laughing it up with her stuffed animals. She cannot deal with this situation maturely. It's safe to say that without Daniel's influence, she will go back to dealing with it by retreating to her make-believe world of purple monkeys. It's unrealistic to expect otherwise from Bree, given the way she has acted in the past. |
I think part of omega's concern -- and mine; and a lot of other fans' -- is that Bree's not going to develop. The way she's been carrying on is absolutely deplorable. She can't stay that way forever. Well, she could, but I think that would be a darn shame. Her character would have never gone anywhere better. If anything, her personality has diminished greatly.
Allowing Bree to go back to "proving science wrong" would mean she's not facing reality. She wouldn't be making a stand. She wouldn't be doing anything but once again allowing herself to be a pathetic victim. A victim of the Order and a victim of her own inability to deal with the world. I don't think that says anything meaningful -- and I hope the Creators want their story to say something meaningful.
If it happens, as long as it's temporary and Bree is later forced to deal with things in a mature fashion, I think it might be fine. It will be hard to sit through again, but I think it could work. She just can't stay that way.
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EliCash Lonely Fan
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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I share the same concern. Believe me. However, I caution against Bree changing too quickly, as that wouldn't be realistic. This series will hopefully last a very long time. If that's the case, there's plenty of time for Bree to grow.
But right now, this series needs somebody to be proactive. That means it's up to Daniel to step up. I hope that Bree gets her shot later on. |
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SharpI Lonely Fan

Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 194 Location: Undisclosed
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:17 am Post subject: |
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I don't agree with the basic premise: that Bree is dead weight and needs to be jettisoned for the story to move forward. If Bree were to slip free of Daniel, for example, the story could move forward, even if she takes the video camera with her and we don't hear from Daniel for a month.
What's necessary is for this story to get some traction, by which I mean truth. Right now there's very little that we the fans know for sure, and as a result Bree and Daniel's actions seem random.
To me, the lack of clear motivation for our villains is what has unmoored the story. Outside of some McGuffin about a ceremony, I have no idea what the Order may want with Bree. We don't know enough truth about it: all we know is that Bree's parents went off, seemingly willingly, and left Bree some money and told her to stay with Daniel. For two people to then flee and hide out in the desperate manner they have, there must be more to it than that.
The simple answer is that Bree knows more than she's told us, and that makes sense. But she apparently also hasn't told Daniel, and that's a problem. If for example in the next video Daniel says, "Bree told me everything. We are not going home, or to the police. That's final" I think the story would get traction without Daniel leaving Bree. |
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