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The Order needs to make a comeback in a big way

 
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immortal1
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: The Order needs to make a comeback in a big way Reply with quote

Right now they seem pretty inept.

    1) Supposedly Tachyon strolled right into one of their facilities a made off with a ton of information.
    2) Daniel finds and breaks into Lucy's apartment.
    3) Bree and Daniel managed to stay one step ahead of the Watchers and eventually eluded them when Bree went off with Jonas to an undisclosed location.
    4) Daniel went home without any confrontation with the Order.
    5) Tachyon has managed to find Gemma.

What is Bree even running from at this point? From what we know of the ceremony- it seemed harmless. I just watched "On the Run" again. Bree's parents went with the Deacon and Lucy. They weren't forced. There were no menacing burly bald guys taking them by the arm.

It's time to raise the stakes.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that if they're really sinister something clearly showing them in such a light needs to come along soon, but I disagree with the notion that Bree's parents weren't forced to go with Lucy and the deacon. We don't know that one of them didn't have a gun or that they hadn't made some kind of other threat. Obviously you're not going to be waving pistols around in public. Especially if all the real people living in the neighborhood haven't been told that there's a fictional story being filmed and that there's no need to panic.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or maybe they said "if you dont come with us, we will put a bullet in your daughter and her frends head"
Shocked that would make me go if i had a daughter
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well daniel went home to a house that they put hidden cameras in it. and his parents seemed to act really funny. so something's up lol.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think we havent see the Last of the Order...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: The Order needs to make a comeback in a big way Reply with quote

immortal1 wrote:
What is Bree even running from at this point? From what we know of the ceremony- it seemed harmless. I just watched "On the Run" again. Bree's parents went with the Deacon and Lucy. They weren't forced. There were no menacing burly bald guys taking them by the arm.

I agree with iamcool on this one.

Maybe Lucy and the Deacon didn't have to rough up Bree's parents. A simple phrase like "Cooperate or your son/daughter's dead" would make most parents comply. (If you really care about your kid(s), that is...)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't there a few inconsistencies with d's parents? Daniel called them and told them that he was 'camping' yet his parents thought he was at Paul's?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah... I was thinking the same thing. I want to see The Order in action... Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

girlAnachronism wrote:
Aren't there a few inconsistencies with d's parents? Daniel called them and told them that he was 'camping' yet his parents thought he was at Paul's?


Yeah. Either his parents don't care about him and what he does, or his parents are really stupid.

Which makes me wonder how much danger Daniel is in for going home.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there are some mixed signals coming from the Order.

On the one hand, the Order seems to be able to put cameras into the bedrooms of Bree and Daniel, and it seems that they took Bree's parents away against their will (why else would they have had to secretly leave Bree a note telling her to stay away).
But on the other hand, they can't manage to capture Bree and Daniel even though they knew where they were most of the time. The Order either didn't want to catch them at all, only track them, or they aren't as dangerous (or capable) as they seem.

As far as Daniel is concerned, maybe they aren't interested in him anymore because of the apparent rift between Bree and him (hopefully this is just some kind of ruse to throw the Order off their trail, but who knows). They may just be content to watch him with the hidden camera they left in his room. Speaking of the cameraPersonally, I find it difficult to believe that Daniel doesn't know it's in his room, since he must read all about it in this forum. He hasn't said anything about it though, which confuses me a bit.
And Daniel told us from the beginning that his parents didn't really care that much about him, so it doesn't really surprise me that they were mistaken about his whereabouts.

Obviously, there are a lot of questions about the order and most of the characters' true motives at this point. Hopefully when this is all cleared up we will see that it all makes sense and that there are no huge holes in the story. Cause that would just be sad.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Word.

For all we know, the order is really a bunch of guys who sit in a room and play bridge. Bree was CHOSEN to be thier waitress: she goes and makes them all watercress sandwitches for refreshment during thier weekly meeting. She was getting shots of antibotics because they are germophobes and don't want her breathing pathogens on thier food.

Lets see that there's something we need to be nervous about here. There is the unknown....and then there is building suspense.

Let's learn something scary please. Our villian needs at least a stick to poke us with.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DreamerM wrote:
Word.

For all we know, the order is really a bunch of guys who sit in a room and play bridge. Bree was CHOSEN to be thier waitress: she goes and makes them all watercress sandwitches for refreshment during thier weekly meeting. She was getting shots of antibotics because they are germophobes and don't want her breathing pathogens on thier food.


I don't know about you......but that sounds pretty scary to me Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh just like "The Empire Strikes Back" the Order will Definitely "strike back" very soon. Had to put a Star Wars reference in here somewhere ahah.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the order is already a couple steps ahead of B and D. I think the the two obscure references in the last two videos to successful business people cracking and wanting a simpler life (the guy on the train with Daniel, and the lady who ran the cookie shop) are signs that the order is positioning themselves to constantly watch B and D and now J (if jonas isnt part of the order, his body language is suspicious).

Feel free to correct me on any of this, but the order is supposed to help you get ahead in life and be successful as are the two people mentioned in the last two videos.

OpAphid however has said that you should wait around and serve the Order when they call upon you. It seems obvious that these two business people were called up by the Order to do their duty. They immediately left their lives and are spying on the trio.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Order is a lot more subtle than Tachyon. T uses loud music and huge revelations to attract attention. The Order quietly infiltrates and observes and eventually deceives. I agree that the people J and D met are probably Order members. Slowly, the Order is setting up positions...
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