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character evaluation

i am making a note here regarding sarah's character. i know that a lot of people love sarah and feel that she can do no wrong but my intent is not to pass value judgment. by observing how sarah deals with conflict (and she has many conflicts!), i've noticed that she has difficulty admitting when she is wrong, often lies and is manipulative and yet here in this video she talks about jonas as if she has always had everybody's best internist at heart. this is false. sarah is a narcissist in how she identifies with things outside of herself and now she is extremely arrogant in how she talks about jonas. i can picture her yelling at him "you should have listened to me because i was right and you were wrong!" and completely forgetting about every time sarah screwed up. remember the notes she spilled in the water? remember the syrum that she "lost at a party" and most recently, her attempt to ruin daniel and malory? i feel it is important to take note sarah's disproportionately immature actions and reactions. lastly, there is a reason that the creators posted a video from both daniel and sarah. they WANT us to see the character difference between sarah and daniel. sarah is more aggressive and arrogant while danniel is far more thoughtful and pensive and empathetic. - play oct 4

Platy, I agree, but I also hate Sarah's guts so I'm not the best person to have on your side over this. I mostly wonder how you posted this tomorrow..Nancypants oct 3

i am from the future. obviously. lol... i don't think anybody on lgpedia has a more difficult time posting notes. granted, i didn't expect this one to stick because its critical of everyone's favorite character. and yet any evaluation of character development or symbolism is apparently 'opinion' and thus not relevant. oh well. - play oct 4

I can't say I feel one way or the other about Sarah, but the "absoluteness" of this note seems out of place in a wiki - "most arrogant" and "because she was jealous" in particular. Whether or not we think she is jealous and the most arrogant doesn't mean she actually is. (For the record, I do agree with the style guide that formal articles should have very neutral wording - opinions are what talk pages and blogs are for.) And the "it could be argued" doesn't really help take away the absoluteness, even if that was the intention. Also, while I agree that she did those things (lied and dropped the notes in the water), it seems like bringing those things up now when the Sarah-character has been shown to be trying to turn over a new leaf is denying that people have the possibility change - which in itself is okay, but ... sad. Anyway - people who hate something about themselves react most severely to it when it is mirrored in other people. I don't know where I'm going with this. Just my 2 cents. --Theresa 02:56, 4 October 2007 (CDT)

• there is a difference between being arrogant and being confident in my evaluation ;-p

...i would also argue that Sarah hasn't changed as much as you give her credit. she uses the term 'turn over a new leaf'

in an episode where she says 'i want to be more honest' but really means to say 'i want to be the police that makes everyone else more honest, specifically daniel and his relationship with mallory' ...her motivations are more clear than cellophane.

i think the difference is that you are looking as sarah as if she is a real person and i am looking as sarah as if she is a character in a tv program. - platy oct 4