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| | Does anybody else think that the featured article should be at the top of the page? Maybe somebody could try making the top header smaller and sticking it to above the table and using the white space above Latest Developments for the featured article. I hope that makes sense, I tried to visualize it. Just a thought. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:25, 25 March 2007 (CDT) | | Does anybody else think that the featured article should be at the top of the page? Maybe somebody could try making the top header smaller and sticking it to above the table and using the white space above Latest Developments for the featured article. I hope that makes sense, I tried to visualize it. Just a thought. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:25, 25 March 2007 (CDT) |
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| − | :::It would make sense for them to be in order of appearance. But, I think Gemma is definitely not a main character anymore. Maybe we could have another link to her page and a link to plot holes somewhere in a different section. I guess we'll see how the vote going on a few lines north of here pans out. --[[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 19:40, 7 March 2007 (CST)
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| − | : I say we take Gemma out and replace her with the smaller picture option at [[Main Page/redesign]]. If Alex becomes more of a main character, we can add her. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 21:01, 17 March 2007 (CDT)
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| − | :: I like the bigger option better, and I think that's a better pic of Daniel than what's on the main page now. But Gemma has to go, she hasn't been part of the story for nearly 4 months.[[User:Misty|Misty]] 13:03, 18 March 2007 (CDT)
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| − | ::::I think that the positive contributions made with anonymous IP addresses, could be from registerd users, who either forgot or just didn't bother to login. several of my posts are under my IP address, for that reason, and i had to go back and reedit them to get my identity attached to them. Plus I don't think having to login would be much of a deterrent, on the forums, everyone needs to be logged in to post, and i'm sure most the poeple who edit here post ofn the forum too. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 17:20, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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| − | :And yet it is still the case that the vandalism here is very minimal. And even if we required a login, a vandal could easily create multiple accounts to vandalize. The fact that it's easy for people to create an account only shows that it would be just as easy to vandalize with an username as with an IP address. Also, there really isn't a substantial difference between an editor using an IP address and one using a username. A username simply helps to give the person an "identity" so to speak--it's easier for other editors to identify them and they can feel more a part of the community. But I still respect all of the anonymous editors very much. After all, the point of a wiki is so that ''everyone'' can contribute.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:37, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
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| − | Does anyone think that its time we change Jonas & Bree's blog pics on the main page? Daniel's was changed fairly recently but i don't believe that Bree's or Jonas's has been in a while.
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| − | ---[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]
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| − | :I'm up for a change. Any suggestions for new pictures?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 15:24, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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| − | ::I'd just vote for more recent pictures. I think it's safe to say that Bree is never going back to that bedroom. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 15:27, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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| − | Well i can post a few pictures that i think would be the best for the main page of bree. but i have to upload them first.
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| − | :Hey Michiev,
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| − | :[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 16:17, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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| − | I like the pics you selelcted psmith andi like the wide-screen versions but i still think bree should be first. -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 17:25, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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| − | I think we should try to achieve that, in the new pictures as well. -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 00:36, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
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| − | Can you go the other way, and make them all like zoomed out more,to match Bree in the table above it? -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 20:31, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
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| − | :Perfect! Love the picture of Daniel in the big Mexican hat! He's smiling so big! [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 14:33, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
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| − | :: I agree, lets go live with it tonight, if we don't have any objections -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 15:31, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
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Does anybody else think that the featured article should be at the top of the page? Maybe somebody could try making the top header smaller and sticking it to above the table and using the white space above Latest Developments for the featured article. I hope that makes sense, I tried to visualize it. Just a thought. Malan89 20:25, 25 March 2007 (CDT)
I know this has already been debated, but I think that Alex should be moved to the Main Page very soon.
Some people have said she shouldn't because she's not a blogger like Bree, Daniel, Gemma and Jonas; I still consider her a main character. No one ever really said that all main characters have to be bloggers...
No i don't believe that she should, Because the main characters on the main page, are in all or most of the videos and shes not in that many, I think that it would just be safe to keep her in the supporting characters section, unless she becomes a character that should be put on the main page.
