Talk:The Deacons (commenter)
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are "the deacons" aware that many people are watching? and if so many people are watching, why are the deacons so unashamed of publicly tormenting a tennage girl and her family? - platypusrex256
Perhaps because she is so important to their belief.--modelmotion 03:07, 18 November 2006 (PST)
- "Since anyone can post under the name The Deacons..." Isn't this now out of date as a result of the server upgrade?--Jonpro
Why are we posting screen caps instead of copying and pasting the text? --Brucker 11:47, 22 November 2006 (CST)
- Valid point, however it might be a good thing to keep the screencaps. Older computers/browsers or computers who do not have the proper language installed may not be able to see the non-English text and will instead see a bunch of question marks. --Andy 11:57, 22 November 2006 (CST)
The reason that i have used screen captures is because text is just too easy to modify. Yes, I could modifty the screen capture but that would take more work and show up under forensic analysis. I also provide a link to the original source material so that allows users to copy the actual text if they want to do their own research. I believe this is the most accurate way to document that this was information taken directly from the chat and not some fake or modified text that was added to the LGpedia.--modelmotion 12:45, 22 November 2006 (CST)
From deleted Grigori page
According to Wikipedia, Grigori "are a group of fallen angels told of in Biblical apocrypha who mated with mortal women, giving rise to a race of giants known as the Nephilim. Also known as "Watchers" (from Greek egrḗgoroi), the Grigori appear in the booksEnoch and Jubilees". Book of Enoch is an Angelic teaching which also equals the storyline.
The Deacons (commenter) (aka Deacons (commenter)) have now made several references to Grigori. This seem to tied in with what Gemma described as a Watcher.
From deleted Samyaza page
According to Wikipedia, "Samyaza (Aramaic: שמיחזה, Greek: Σεμιαζά) also Shemyazaz, Sêmîazâz, Semjâzâ, Shemyaza, Samyaza, Shemhazai, and Amezarak (Ethiopic corruption)) is a fallen angel of Christian tradition that ranked in the heavenly hierarchy as one of the Grigori (meaning "Watchers" in Greek"). The term was used by The Deacons (commenter) after Fleeing The Watcher.
The Deacons are fanfiction, but I find it irritating how much credit people give them on the comments boards. Some genuinely think they are canon. Their own breed of fanfiction is, well, original, and this poster is very prolific. However, the article is pathetically out-of-date since it tries to include all their comments. Perhaps rather than deleting it needs to be rewritten as a fanfiction piece, without giving such great emphasis on the speculation that they are canon. Now if Bree went and said "Well Deacons, I've been reading your posts and..." then of course we'd give them credit. OwenIsCool 19:08, 16 January 2007 (CST)
I think it should really be taken out of the religion section on the template. Stick it in fanfiction where it belongs...and axe umin thummin or whatever --Tannhaus 19:49, 16 January 2007 (CST)
- LOL, how sly. It's on the template, but the template is not on the article. The Bree's religion template as a whole needs a cleanup. I'll just remove the commenters for now. OwenIsCool 19:56, 16 January 2007 (CST)
- Ok, took out commenters and Urim thing. Interesting, I hadn't even noticed Urim was there. Isn't that page a redirect to The Deacons (commenter) anyway? Oh well, gone now. OwenIsCool 19:58, 16 January 2007 (CST)
- I don't agree with all these pictures uploaded to show those lame umim and thummim posts. I really don't even like calling main page comments from an anonymous person fanfic either. Back then anyone could post with any name, and they didn't have to do a thing to create that but type. Umim+Th don't belong anywhere, and I'd rather The Deacons (commenter) not be on here either. It's long past anyway, as The Deacons have gone into hiding now that they'd actually have to sign up to make their "fanfic" posts. -lord grey?
- I agree on a deltion ---Iris2009
- I don't see any reason to delete the page entirely. But I agree we can dump the enormous screen captures of the quotes, and condense it to a reasonable length. I don't have a problem with pages on fan-fiction as long as they quickly and clearly identify themselves as fan-fiction.--JayHenry 21:48, 16 January 2007 (CST)
- I might not get around to it right now, but I'll see what I can do to reword it, summarize it, and bring it up to date. People think they're gone bc the page is out-of-date, but they've been posting as "Deacons", even so recently as to scold Bree after the "Bree And I Hooked Up" video. I'm not a big fan of them either, but we should still cover them because many fans at the comment boards LOVE them and they cheer when a new post comes up and analyze it painstakingly. I swear I'm not making this up... see for yourself. OwenIsCool 23:44, 16 January 2007 (CST)
- The Deacons are a fanfic if nothing else. they are fans playing along with the story, just by words on the comment page instead of a video. theyre differant, thats all. prehaps the page needs to be edited but the posts should stay here, i think they may be relevant in the future and alot of people find them interesting.Abba12 05:19, 17 January 2007 (CST)
I'm making an effort to see if I can turn this page into something that might be useful to fans. The way it is now, it's better off deleted than here, but I think that as fanfic, it might have a place. In case anyone wants to help out, here is sort of the order in which I'd like to make improvements
- Look for their posts following Life's Not Fair and add links and (reasonably sized) screencaps to articles as well as links to the comments (so we don't have to go fishing for them again). We can decide later what screencaps to keep or toss.
- After each screencap, list the key terms from the post (e.g. Urim and Thummin, Grigori, etc.)
- Give a short definition of these terms and provide reference to wikipedia article or something of the sort. We will not expend too much space defining these terms or speculatively tying them in to justify them as canon.
- When we've gathered all the info, we'll write in additional commentary that might be useful.
- I'd like to have a section on "parodies" of the deacons on the comments board, because some of them are quite funny. But that's definitely not high priority.
Anyone who feels like pitching in, your help is welcome! If you have any questions, just let me know. OwenIsCool 03:18, 18 January 2007 (CST)
- Thanks for getting the links to the latest posts, JayHenry! Biggest waste of my life too, lol... I should have kept things simpler. OwenIsCool 03:49, 19 January 2007 (CST)
Ok, now all the Deacons posts that we know of have a screencap and a link in this article. I briefly considered leaving the screencaps out, mainly to save myself the trouble, but when I clicked the links JayHenry provided, they no longer worked! I think this is a byproduct of the new comments board layout. Basically if you click the link to the comment you get directed to the appropriate page, but not to the comment itself. I don't know if/when this will be fixed, but I hope someone takes care of it soon. We have other articles on LGpedia that link to comments (such as those left by Danielbeast), and it would be a shame if those didn't work anymore either. In the meantime... if anyone doesn't like the screencaps... well that's why they're there. And because doing them as text would have been a pain, what with the special characters and stuff. OwenIsCool 14:08, 21 January 2007 (CST)
This page is an important part of comments board history and should stay pretty much as it stands. It is actually a condensed version of many pages that once existed and the links were accumulated here. It is therefore very well researched and a good representation of what happened. The Deacons were very important because they played a vital role in the development of the comment board community and were responsible for a large amount of the social bonding that the Creators have openly talked about being important for Lonelygirl15.--modelmotion 07:03, 9 June 2008 (CDT)
- MM, I see the reasoning behind the revert, but if you're going to do it, could you go through everything a second time? All of the links to the comment boards (at least when I checked before) no longer work, so those should probably be removed. - Shiori 10:55, 10 June 2008 (CDT)
- I'll go through it now so it'll be mostly done. - Shiori 11:00, 10 June 2008 (CDT)
- The links probably went bad when LG15 decided to change their url structure. I though the bot had corrected all of that stuff, but perhaps not. This page is primarily of historical significance and hence it has not had a lot of attention recently.--modelmotion 00:06, 14 June 2008 (CDT)
- I'll go through it now so it'll be mostly done. - Shiori 11:00, 10 June 2008 (CDT)