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==Main page format==
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I would like to see an index of sections at the very top of the page that would jump to the section belowAs the page currenly is formattted it hides most of the wonderful content and makes user scroll down the pageMany studies have shown that some web users really hate to scroll unless its required to read a page.  I think we can fix that with a and index and still give the admin the space at the top they need to make their pointsI would just go ahead and do it but i know the Main Page is a pretty touchy property:)--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 08:26, 16 November 2006 (PST)
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:MediaWiki sites automatically will make a table of contents once enough sections exist. -- [[User:Twjaniak|Twjaniak]] 11:25, 16 November 2006 (PST)
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== Talk Archive for Main Page ==
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*[[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_up_to_November_2006 | Archive up to November 2006]]
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*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive from Nov-Dec 2006 | Archive from November up to December 2006]]
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*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive from Dec-Jan 2007 | Archive from December up to January 2006]]
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*[[Talk:Main Page/redesign/archive of dicussion | Archive of redesign discussion]]
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*[[Talk:Main Page/redesign | Archive of final redesign discussion]]
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*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive from Jan-Feb2007]]
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*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive of character box discussion]]
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*[[Talk:Main Page/Archive_March-Mid_May]]
  
Well we clealy have enough sections since I cant see most of the importand content without scrolling.  What are we doing wrong?--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 11:36, 16 November 2006 (PST)
 
  
:I think we could safely archive the location discussion for now.  We may revisit it in 30 days or as was discussed but for now its taking up too much space on this page.  Anyone object?--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 19:23, 20 November 2006 (CST)
 
  
I still feel that the home page for LGpedia is overly dominated by insructions and notices.  While communication with contributers is extremely important I think that leaving the content at the bottom is a mistake. Studies have show that users prefer not to scroll unless they have to.  I think we could move some of the content up the page and move the notices to a right bar.  That would be more functional for a non-contributing user and to be honest for myself.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 13:43, 22 November 2006 (CST)
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===How about with colors? ===
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:Do we really need the large Welcome sign at the top......its taking up valuable real estate and really does nothing for us?  Food for thought.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 09:35, 23 November 2006 (CST)
 
  
if you want to keep the Welcome sign we could probably save some space with something like this:
 
  
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|align=center style="background:DeepPink; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:MidnightBlue; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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I think the more content links we can show the more funtional the wiki (but i know you need some page at the top for important notices.Of course it could be designed so it looks much better than i have shown above.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 17:09, 25 November 2006 (CST)
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:Hurrah for colors! I love this so much. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 08:46, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
  
==What is this???==
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:: I definitely prefer it without the colors. Too many clashing colors is never good design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:15, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
:It's a Wiki for the Lonelygirl15 series. It's just beginning, and it seems that there is only one other user besides me who has started to contribute. Eventually, it will be like an encylopedia that anyone can edit. If you know how a Wiki works and would like to contribute, it'd be great. If you don't know how a wiki works, then maybe you should just look around and see how things work until a help page of sorts gets written up. --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|TheNunOwnedGoat]] 14:57, 29 September 2006 (PDT)
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So  what  do  we  have  to  discuss  on  here??
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:::The colors are nice and I like how they match up with the colors id'ing the bloggers on the right side of the page. If you look at the new box along with the rest of the main page, it works. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 22:08, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
ELLO POPPET!
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Cuz I  noticed  my  last  post  was  deleted.
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:Your last post was deleted because you blanked the comments of previous users, which is generally frowned upon on talk pages.
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:::I agree with Malan89 the whole way. Live? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:22, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
  
:This is the talk page for the main page of the LGpedia; any suggestions or comments you have about the [[Main Page]] are the kind of thing we should discuss here. - [[User:Dharmabum420|Dharmabum420]] 03:42, 1 October 2006 (PDT)
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::::  I really think it looks bad.  Those aren't even the same colors as the initials. They don't match at all. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 16:27, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
  
Well do have one  suggestion.   Its  not on the main page but  its  on  lg15.com  Well u  could add  an  rss  later  on when  the website  is  done.
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:::::  Don't worry about it for now. I think we may be adding a "Taylor" block soon. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:32, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
It would  be  quite  helpful.
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::::::Please no colors, I'm serious. The Main Page really doesn't need to be tricked out. It has a simple color scheme that works great, and it has some pictures and color accents (like in the Init template) to keep things just interesting enough. I'm actually not a fan of the colored boxes on the characters page either, but if you want to have a little fun with that, fine by me, just leave the main page as is, it looks much more polished and put together without the rainbow of fruity flavorsLike Malan said, perhaps we should be more concerned with whether to add Taylor, Sarah, or Taylor&Sarah together to the Main block. They've already done their first "official" blog on their own, on the left-hand columnQuite the milestone for them[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 21:27, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
Anywayz
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::::::: I'm ok with addeing them, but i think we should wait till it's certain they are going to last beyond this story arc, same thing for Jules. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:43, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
Depends on  u
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:I agree. Everyone thought Alex was going to be a main character (and she still could be recurring) but we haven't seen her in ages. Let's be patient with with Taylor, Sarah, and Jules --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 20:58, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
Thanks  anywayz.
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Keep up  the  good  work
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*This is really strange.
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==Navigation menu==
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Why do we need a link to this page on the navigation menu on the left? Again, it just forces down the search box with no improvement to the utility of LGPedia. There are already simple ways for getting back here so this link is just a total waste and very annoying because it leads to more scrolling than is desired.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 20:58, 8 April 2009 (CDT)
  
== Talk Archive ==
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== Breeniverse Timeline ==
[[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_up_to_November_2006 | Archive up to November 2006]]
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== Location pages? ==
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Now that the Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up and brought up to date, we should add it to the main page -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:38, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
  
I'm wondering if we really need all these locations.  Most of these locations appear in only one video, and the information could just as easily be listed there.  For the few locations that appear in multiple videos and therefore have some significance -- Bree's room, Daniel's room and Gemma's flat, I'm fine with keeping the pages.  But a page for "The Chain Linked Fence"? I vote no.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 13:02, 2 November 2006 (PST)
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:The Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up? Finally? I GOTTA GO CHECK THAT OUT! *hops away giddily* [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:56, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
:Actually, there's another problem with the fence page, and that is that the location should really be "Daniel's friend's house" or something like that, and be the location of [[I Listened To Daniel]]. What might be a nice solution is to either compromise with an "Other locations" page like the did with [[Other fanfic]], or maybe even better, have a single page for all the locations excepting [[Bree's bedroom]]. After all, with the exception of [[Lucy's apartment]], all of these pages have only one or two sentences, and that location's information really fits best on the page [[Following The Helper]]. I say do away with ''all'' location pages (and the [[:Category:Locations|category]], too) and only have pages for locations that really have enough info to warrant a page. (At this point, only [[Bree's bedroom]], IMO.) Put the rest of the info on a single page called something like [[Video locations]] with sections for each location in the order they appear. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 13:20, 2 November 2006 (PST)
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::I really think a Video locations page is unnecessary.  Why not just include the information on these places in the videos in which they appear?--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 14:22, 2 November 2006 (PST)
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I agree that there is a need to do away with superfluous pages. If someone would like to start consolidating the information, I can delete the unneeded pages upon completion. -- [[User:Twjaniak|Twjaniak]] 14:10, 2 November 2006 (PST)
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==Sarah and Taylor==
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Okay, now that Sarah and Taylor have both posted their own video blogs that have been posted on the main site, I think it's reasonable to add them to the main page.  I mean, if they ''don't'' end up lasting past this arc, we can always remove them.  They just seem significant enough at this point to merit a front-page character box.  Thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:37, 30 May 2007 (CDT)
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:I agree with putting them up.  The Creators are obviously doing a thorough job trying to fill out these characters with their personalities, their relationships, and their parental issues, so I think they'll be up for awhile. I didn't expect Sarah to actually POST anything outside of a Myspace Blog so soon, but I stand corrected. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:37, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
  
:Location are just as critical to any film/video production as characters, script etc.  The locations reveal a lot of interesting information that is is ofter not covered in LGpedia.  I thus think its a perfectly valid category and should be left aloneIt will just take a little more work to improve the content...but as with any wiki its an on going process.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 17:29, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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Okay, I went through and found some good images of Sarah and TaylorThey will probably need to be cropped better to match up with the other characters, but I wanted to get some options up. What do people think (I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3, personally)?
  
::Absolutely. And nobody is saying that the locations should not be mentioned.  What we are saying is that not every location needs its own page.  Since most of these locations appear in only one video, it would be better to include location information in the video.  I propose we delete all locations that appear in only one video, and move whatever information is on that page, to the video's page.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 18:40, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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:::I have nominated the superfluous pages for deletion.  To see which pages have been nominated, see [[:Category:Articles_marked_for_deletion]].  We have a lot of content, but it's time to make sure that content is better-organized.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 18:51, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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I was going to spend some time working on the "Story up to now...} but if this is how its gonna be I am just going to put that energy into what I consider more important - the locations. I wish i had more time, but I will do what I can do.  --[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 19:07, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah 3</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah 4</span>]]'''
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As for the number of times a location appears we have no idea which locations will appear in future episodes.  As the series develops this could clarify things.....but unit that happens its easier just to have the total list.  One solution would be to group some of the less freequent locations on new page....hum...let me give that a try--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 19:15, 15 November 2006 (PST)
 
  
:: Ok Jay, thanks for the input. I moved things around a bit and I think that will allow us to keep all the locations and still meet your concerns. What do you think? I personally like having all locations pages to refer to......thats why I added most of them in the first place.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 19:27, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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--[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:20, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
  
Oh and I have already added addional content to some of the pages.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 19:28, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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I like Taylor 1 as well (very Secret Agent-y . . . don't ask).  But I'm stuck between Sarah 1,3, AND 5.  1 just seems to have that Sarah-randomn-quality to it, 3 (besides the obvious) is from her first v-blog, and 5 matches up with her profile (currently).  So I'm stuck on Sarah. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:35, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
  
Jay has requested that i respond to location pages only on this page, so I would like to object strongly to the deletion of any location page!!!!--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 19:30, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3. Taylor 2 and Sarah 5 are also good. --[[User:XAccordianGuyx|XAccordianGuyx]] 19:51, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
  
:I requested that you respond to the question: "does every location needs its own page?" on this page, and that issues about specific locations be addressed on their page. Modelmotion, do you understand that nobody is suggesting we delete any ''information''.  We just want things to be better organized, and most of these location-pages are just extra pages with useless or redundant information.  Why should something like [[The Chain-Link Fence]] just not be mentioned in the video in which Daniel stands in front of it?--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 20:09, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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:I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3 as well. The other two Taylor photos are also good in that... well, that room is where you usually see her. But I stand T1 and S3. I'm glad we're adding them to the front page. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:33, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
  
The chain link fense is not the important part. Where the chain link fense is located is infact relevant.  According to the page "The chain-link fence is outside the home of the friend Daniel is staying with when he records I'm Hiding Out."  That is useful information.  Now which friends is he referring to would help pin down that location.....but so far its unknown.  However the purpose of this page is to discuss all aspects of the locations and what it might mean in terms of the plot. I dont see this informotion anywhere else.........and i personally think the new organization resolves most of the problem. I want to keep  all the locations and I contribute a lot to this site. I do appreciate comments and suggestions but I dont like being pushed around. If you dont like my contributions just say so and I will go away because this heavy handed stuff is taking all the fun and enjoyment out of LG for me. "Do what thou Wilt shall be the whole of the Law" --[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 20:24, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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Okay, it seems like T1 and S3 are the consensus? Can anyone crop them so that their heads are the same size as the other chars on the front page? Oh and also...
  
Jay, you ask"I requested that you respond to the question: "does every location needs its own page?" on this page". My answer is categorically YES...and i have done my best to ensure that each new location was added to the list.  Now some locations such as triving around are hard to categorise and can be discussed in the context of the major locations that are mentioned.  A few locations were added by other contributers but they failed to add any details.  I have tried to add what I could but like you, my time is liimited.  However I am happy with the current list and I feel that it accurately portrays the locations that I feel need to mentioned.  The use of the term chain linked fense was selected because its was more descriptive than Daniels friends which would have been highly ambiguous.  So, there is a reason for picking these locations, there is a reason for naming them the way they have been named and each of the pages now has some relevant information which hopefully will provide a catalyst for discussion.  Hence i see no need to delete these pages and no better way to organize the information.  If I did I would be the first to move the stuff around so it would be where users can find it easily.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 20:31, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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Incidentally I real a lot of comments after the videos and terms that I use are often inflenced by how users talk about a subject.  That is where the description came from for the chain linked fense, because if you go back and read the comments thats how users described the location.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 20:33, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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You actually said "Please continue the discussion at Talk:Main Page unless you have particular points to add about the Swimming Hole as deserving of its own page.--JayHenry 19:03, 15 November 2006 (PST)" I dont want to post redunant information all over the place because you are challenging multiple pagesI have therefore tried to keep it simple for you and make the case for all locations pages to be left alone.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 20:38, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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OR um, yeah.  How should we handle the alignment with five chars?  --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:47, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
  
"Modelmotion, there's no reason for you to take this personally. I honestly don't understand why you're so upset, or what you feel is "heavy-handed." This wiki is a community effort, it's not your personal playground. Sometimes people disagree about how something should appear, and when that happens we have to discuss it. Please calm down.--JayHenry 20:44, 15 November 2006 (PST)"
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::Here's a go at front-page quality images. They look bad full size, but I adjusted the face sizing and the saturation (only on Taylor's because it looked so bland between Jonas and Sarah).
  
my response (i dont even know the appropriate place to respond to these things
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Well it is how I feel. I put a lot of effort into LG and while i feel you have the best intentions and actually make intelligent comments I feel at times that the pedia is taking itself a bit too seriously. We want to have fun.....we want to contribute. I totally understand your desire to make it the bet LGpedia that it can be, but if that requires crushing the spirit of a fan like me then I think you are missing the entire point. Free will is a central issue in LG. I dont believe in censorship and that beginning to happen more and more in the chats. Control can be a friend but it can also be the demon within. Just ask the participants in the Standford Prision experiment. I think i provide a pretty good solution by moving many of the locations off the main page. I went thru each of the pages and improved the content to better reflect what i think it should be. I think the use of pictures if very helpful in telling the story thru locations...........but thats as far as I am willing to go.
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The pages say they are up for deletion. They give no indication of when or how the process works . When you say there is not information to justify the page you are directly challenging my desire for the page to exist so of course I am going to get upset.--modelmotion 20:58, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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OK, it appears i'm wading into a big debate among the lgpedia titans here, but my suggestion is that the "Other Locations page" that appears to be new should contain all the random locations on one page, and can provide links there to the page for the video that happened to discuss that page.  like, for lucy's apartment, i'd want to see that Breaking and entering vid page anyway.  we don't need to have a page for each separate location.  no material needs to be deleted, it seems you are just talking about the best organization.  anyhow, that's my 2 cents. --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 21:07, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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::I guess that looks a little more consistent? Just trying to help. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 22:08, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
  
:As far as I am concerned that make life more complicated and since I have been a primary contributer to these pages and will contintue to do so I want to keep it as simple as possible. If you guys want to do all the work yourself then be my guest. If not, leave it the way that works for people spending time on the pages..............and i certainly dont limit that to myself.  However I think the people who are making significant contributions should have their opinion heardI know that Jay does a lot of work and tried hard to to keep things organized.......i just strongly disagree with his approach in this instance.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 21:16, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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:I'm loving this group of five! So . . . on the alignment,I would prefer upside-down pyramid, if it's not too hard (The codes above look nightmare-ish)It just looks like a horizontal band of five characters would just be too long. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:43, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
  
Guys, I would really appreciate it if you all can take some time out from debating the importance of the locations to pool your resources instead and handle a topic that the Creators would love to see handled: [[The Story So Far...]]. This is a project that the Creators view as being the number one objective of LGpedia efforts at this moment-- [[User:Twjaniak|Twjaniak]] 21:50, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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I feel like the Sarah pic needs to be SLIGHTLY zoomed in more to make her face size more consistant with the rest. I hope thats not too big a problem. Oh, and maybe she should be ''desaturated''.. shes like.. noticably brighter than everyone else...  But basically, other than that, are we good to go?
  
: I started the page last night and i began work on it earlier only to find that i have to spend a massive amount of time defending other pages. Like i said previoiusly something has to give and thats gonna be The story so far........good luck with that project....i am out of it now.
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"Modelmotion, please calm down. I'm not going to post on this any further tonight, so you have some time to calm down and sleep on this. Look, here's a story: I designed the templates that we used in the old videos. I really liked that template. TWJaniak came along and designed a new template. Although I prefered the old template, TWJaniak's template was better organized and others liked it. Instead of throwing a temper tantrum, I posted my objection, but then I went along with the wishes of the community. Nobody was "censoring" me, we simply disagreed. That's all part of the process of working on a wiki. When editors disagree, we have to be able to discuss it calmly. Threatening to quit if you don't get your way is not the way decisions are made.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 21:24, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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Here's what I've got based on the current consesus. Like I said, I think Sarah's head should overall be larger to match with the rest of the chars but yeah. Oh, and I iike the saturation on Taylor. Yay, I can't wait for this to go live :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:50, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
  
:My position is that an viable alternative has not been proposed while it has been proposed that the pages be deleted. I provided a solution, I implemented that solution and I think that solution works very very very well. What does it take to get rid of the "deletions". I am quite willing to debate but I am not willing to live in tyrany. LG is about FREE WILL.......and i honestly believe that there are elemtents that want to control our every move on LG. There has been censorship in the chats and everyone know its......but thats a different issue.......and its WRONG. Lets not forget that this is about entertainment. That does not mean it can be sloppy or inaccurate but it does mean that users like myself need room to breath and the changes I have seen in the past 2 weeks strike me as tyranical given the nature of the subject. For example if people want to add their user names to the LG Chat room page then leave them in peace..........its not harming anyone. And yes Jay, I know that when users create pages in the wrong area that creates work for you......but we need to make that part of the education process of a wiki. We are not all experts here and some of us are leaning wiki for near the first time so we will make mistake. But instead of slapping people down and accusing innocent people of vandalism like some people have turn lets turn this into and education experience that rewards those that try. Incidentally I do not take kindly to the implication that I am having a temper tantrim. There is a difference between passion and random outburts of anger. I have a good reason to be upset and if you dont understand why I am upset maybe you should ask Bree.........i have a feeling she would understand me better. "Do what thou Wilt shall be the whole of the Law"--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 22:26, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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:Alright, I resized and recropped Sarah, desaturated and darkened her just the slightest bit (sorry, boys, had to crop the cleavage), so I think she fits in a bit more now. Also, I tweaked the previous code so that the border between Taylor and Sarah is only 1 pixel instead of two. I do like the pyramid... it kind of gives the feel of them being secondary main characters. Plus, it won't stretch things in lower resolutions. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:32, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
  
"modelmotion, I very much appreciate your contributions to LGpedia. What I do not appreciate is your apparent refusal to accept constructive criticism. You've frequently claimed that the way you want to see the location pages is an "all or nothing" affair. Such an attitude is not conducive to compromise or community involvement. The majority of community respondants to the issue, which in the case is pretty much just me and JayHenry, do not agree that your approach is the best way of handling location information. Nevertheless, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt to prove your point. You have a month to make the location pages a substantial contribution to LGpedia. You claim the that the location pages can offer important information that the respective video blog pages cannot; go ahead an make that happen. -- [[User:Twjaniak|Twjaniak]] 06:57, 16 November 2006 (PST)
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::I think it looks GREAT!!! If there are no objections shortly, I'll put it up on the main page. Great work everyone!!  --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::: I strongly Object to the Pyramid layout. you put it up before anyone had time to object -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:14, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
  
:The all or nothing comments are just a sign of my desperation to be heard. I think you are now listening and I think the one month idea if good.  I have been busy with research in the religion section in response to some comments Jay made and I guess I hoped the location pages would pick up steam on their own, but i have been disappointed by the response to some of the pages.  Its actually hard to find the time to go back inot the past while keeping up with the latest development but I think I have already improved most of the location points to the point where they provide useful information.  I am still open to idea and if someone can propose a structure that can better mean the objectives of locations then I will always listen.  However when I create a section I do so for a reason and i would request that the admin's consider the objective which i think is good...ie to have a central collecting point for location based informationIt keeps the vlog pages nice and clean and moves more active speculation to where it belongs.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 07:07, 16 November 2006 (PST)
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:::It look fantabulous! Great job Zoey, Chartreuse, and everyone who figured out the new character-pyramid! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:41, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::: I think it ould look better as a single line with smaller images.  the pyramid looks awfull -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:09, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
  
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::The only problem with this is that it's going to look awful on lower resolutions. It'll stretch things all out of whack. I think the most characters you can have side-by-side is going to be four. It really is a shame we don't have one more character to try and balance the pyramid out. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:02, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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I REALLY like the way it looks.  However, the two columns on the Main Page are now very uneven.  For this, I have a suggestion... how about we list the last 5 videos with thumbnails and descriptions, as opposed to 4?  It's more consistent with the 5 "previous videos," and it will make the page look much more balanced.  Y/N?  ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 23:30, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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:I was actually thinking the same, but I thought, 'Hmmm . . . better let someone else bring it up first' --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:55, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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I do actually kind of like the smaller images lined up in one row, but I still worry about what it will do to the page with smaller resolutions.  Does anyone with a smaller resolution want to check this out maybe?  --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:23, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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: in 1024X768 it looks great with 90px images but we can also reduce down to 80px images too. none of the formatted pages look good at 800x600, but I don't think we need to worry about that, since almost no one has a 13 inch monitor anymore. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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:: without objection I will change the page 12 hours from now.  -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::Sounds great to me. No objections here. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 12:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::Sure, sounds fine. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:28, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::::Yeah . . . big pics in a pyramid, small pics in a line, whatever's clever --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:34, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Swap Taylor and Sarah ==
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I noticed that [[User:FH14|FH14]] just switched Taylor's and Sarah's boxes. I assume this is because Sarah is getting a bigger role now than Taylor? I reverted the change so it could be discussed and also because the borders didn't look quite right. If people want the pictures swapped, just offer your support here and we'll go ahead and do it. As a general rule, though, the Main Page shouldn't be changed without first getting consensus as it is the most viewed page on the 'pedia.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:58, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
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:I agree that Sarah's become a more important character (thank god!), so she should be first. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:47, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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::I also agree. It would make sense, seeing as it seems as though Taylor has faded out of the picture. --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 18:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::Okay, I went ahead and changed it. Thanks for the input, Jbshryne and Brooklynxman!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:11, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::And you know, with the angle of Taylor's face in that pic, it works better as an end-piece. :-> ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 02:15, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::::I like it... and it also works alphabetically! [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:40, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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[[Image:jonasdonttickle.JPG|thumb|left|200px|[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:56, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]
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[[Image:Jonasbyfireplace.jpg|thumb|right|200px|My only concern with this one is that it was previously edited by my friend. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:35, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]
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Is it at all possible for Jonas' picture to be sharper? Otherwise, I think we should replace it. I do have another picture in mind. I remember the discussion of picture changes a month or so ago, but I think his picture needs to be either sharper or changed. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 20:16, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
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:I agree. I always thought the picture wasn't sharp enough. I would love to see the picture you had in mind.--[[User:jeans|jeans]]
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::I concur, and besides, that picture isn't doing justice to his looks. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 21:34, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::I like jonasdontticke.jpg (the left image)!!! If you need it cropped/adjusted, let me know. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 23:01, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::Yes, I love the one on the left as well! I think it would be great cropped. --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
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:::::Any mods like to put their input? [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:37, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::::The only mod I've seen around lately is Zoey.  As for me, the left one rocks. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:42, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::::Oh, foot in mouth, JonPro just commented above.  Anyway, yeah, I'd say at this point, we've got a consensus. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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Oh, me! :P  I vote yes!  I really like the left picture :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:20, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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:As do I. I just don't know how to change it on the main page. So can we go through with it?[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:21, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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::Someone will need to crop it so that it matches the size/ratio formats of the current images, and then it can be added.  Once it's modified I can add it if ya want :P.  That's not a problem.  We just need to get it looking right! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:24, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::I'd crop it... but I have no idea what the current size/ratio format is. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:25, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::I cropped it to the size, but perhaps not to the ratio.  If it's wrong, revert it. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 01:44, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::Yeah, his face was too big.  Grr.  I'll try again... in photoshop. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 01:46, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::::Um... you know what?  Bad news.  There might not be enough "picture" around Jonas's face in that shot (even in the original video) to use that picture, because everybody else's faces are smaller in their pictures, in comparison to their "backgrounds."  :-( ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 01:54, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::::Yeah, I just tried to play with it... and you can get it to the same size and shape, but his face is way too close to the camera to bring it out and make him match the rest of them. I rewatched that same video to look for a place where there could have been a more usable screenshot, but to no avail. I'm going to go through some recent videos to look for a good screenshot. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 09:28, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::::::You know, how do we feel about a shot from [[The Morning After]]?  Just looking at the thumbnail that's on the page right now, it looks like the size/ratio would pretty much match up perfectly with the others.  The only problems I can see: (1) we would probably want to wait through a few more videos, so we don't have 2 shots from the same video on the Main Page, and (2) he's kind of half-naked (though that might be less of a problem for some than for others...) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 17:35, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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[[Image:Jonas3.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Too bad his hair isn't up to par. :( --[[User:jeans|jeans]]]]I found another option for a picture. I looked through a lot of videos and not many of them have very good potential screenshots. This one was the best I could find at the moment. Any thoughts?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
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:::::Ya know, I was totally thinking the same thing JB... but I didn't know if it would be okay with everyone with him with his shirt off. Granted, I'd love it, but my decision wasn't based on my "fan-girl"-ness. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 19:29, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::::I too like the idea. :)--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
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It may be difficult to find a good picture of Jonas where the camera is sufficiently distant from his face. See below for 5 pictures of Jonas: the current pic, the current pic sharpened, and 3 new pics from the latest video. However, when you put one of the new pics alongside the other characters, you can see that Jonas's face is too close to the camera. So far, I vote to use the sharpened version of the current pic unless someone can upload some more alternatives (or point me to the relevant video and scene for more photo ideas). [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|-
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|<span style="color:white">Taylor</span>]]'''
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|}
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{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px;  cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
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|-
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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|-
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|<span style="color:white">Taylor</span>]]'''
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|}
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<center>[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)</center>
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<br>
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Haha, those three new ones actually kind of scare me.  I vote for the sharpened current one too. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 11:38, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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:Man... why does that pic from [[Bedside Manner]] have to be too big??  Yeah, I agree, the sharpened current is already a huge improvement.  The Creators had better give us a nice shot of him soon, from far enough away... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 16:45, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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:I agree, the sharpened version of the current picture is WAY cool.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
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:: I also agree, but it is higher in contrast and saturation than the others, I think that it should be the benchmark and the others should be matched to it since all of them are a little too dull.  -[[User:Misty|misty]] 01:29, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
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:I also enjoy seeing a clearer version of the current picture of Jonas.  Keep the same shot, just pick the clearer one! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:48, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
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::I love the sharper version. Great job whoever did it! [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 23:06, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::OK, it looks like you all like the sharpened version so I'll go ahead and update the main page. Misty, I'll look at adjusting the sharpness of the other headshots too, but I'll post them here first. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:39, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
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[[Image:0229-Jonas-cropped.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Tada!--[[User:jeans|jeans]] July 11]]{{Clr}}
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I'm going to just throw another headshot out there and see if anyone likes it better than the current one. It obviously would still need to be properly cropped and sized.--[[user:jeans|jeans]] July 11
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: I love this! I was actually thinking "he looks so nice" as I was watching this video today. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 15:36, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
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:: =D Me too.--[[user:jeans|jeans]] 16:06, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
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::: Haha, this is the main reason I came to the discussion page tonight. I am all for this (of course, if it's possible). [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 00:59, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
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== Adding Spencer, changing sizes. ==
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Because it has been announced that Spencer will be with us as a series regular for at least the next two months, should we add him to the front page? If we do, we'll have to change the sizes of the character images because five on the top and one on the bottom would look kind of cluttered. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:10, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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(EDIT: we could also make the sizes bigger to make it three on the top, three on the bottom) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:12, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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:I had been playing with that earlier today, actually! [[User:Chartreuse/Sandbox | My Sandbox]] --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:15, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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::Oh, I see! I'm glad you're working with it! Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:20, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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:::Any feedback would be lovely. This is what I have at this point:
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{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px;  cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
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|-
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|-
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|<span
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style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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|}
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{| align=center style="background:Black; width:300px;  cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-spacing: 0px;"
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|-
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0222-SpencerLaughing-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|-
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|<span style="color:white">Taylor</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-right-width: 0; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Spencer|<span style="color:white">Spencer</span>]]'''
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|-
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|}
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::: i like that. 5 across was looking a little long to me, actually --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 07:54, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
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I think it's a fine idea, and it looks good, but I propose we wait to make any changes until we make the whole Portal pages live, just so we don't overcomplicate things.  *nods* --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:40, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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: Oh, that's what I had figured on, which is why it was just on my sandbox page for now. I just had Photoshop open at the same time as Spencer's latest, so I was like... HMMM... *nods back* --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:46, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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::Okay awesome :)  Ooh, hey, if you've still got PS open, someone needs to crop the images on [[User:Zoey/sandbox]] to make them fit in the boxes properly.  It might involve cropping.. or adding like.. a white background or something.. I dont know, whatever to make it look good.  But yeah, just a though, especially if you have PS opened already :)  Thanks.  --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:50, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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:: O.O! I refuse to admit to the fact that I had already been messing with them. Scary! --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:55, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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:::<nowiki>*</nowiki>raises hand* I volunteer to crop *runs to PhotoPlus* MEEP Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 19:27, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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:::And heeeerrrreee we go!
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:::[[Image:LG15PortalImageCropped.jpg]]
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:::[[Image:KateModernPortalImageCropped.jpg]]
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:::I'll go ahead and put them in your sandbox now, Zoey. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 19:47, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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The LG one looks good, but does the KM one look slightly fuzzy to anyone else?  Is that fixable? Gah, I hope we get the "new" cast photos Miles promised soon, I don't like how these two are so vastly different in sizes with the people (the Kate cast is so BIG compared to the LG cast! Haha).  Other than that though, I think it's good.  Anyone else have any thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:25, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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:With the KM one, it was already fuzzy. That is the sharpened version, but I'll sharpen it a bit more. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 20:26, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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::OK, hows this:
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::[[Image:KateModernPortalImageSharpened.jpg]]
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::It's increased a little bit. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 20:32, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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::(Ooops, wrong size (and I airbrushed a little bit.) Here:
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::[[Image:KateModernPortalImageAirbrushed.jpg]]
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::Hows that?) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 20:37, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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::: Those look nice. Only thing I recommend (if possible) is sharpening around Gavin's head and Kate's head. Otherwise it's a vast improvement. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 00:58, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
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::::Ok, I went a little airbrush crazy on this one, but deal with it. The shadows were bugging me.
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::::[[Image:KateModernPortalImagePhotoshopped.jpg]]
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::::Soooo...? Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 01:46, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
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::::On second thought, I don't like it. What is everyone else's opinion? Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 01:58, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
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== Adding on to the navigation ==
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Whoever has access to edit the navigation bar on the side will soon need to add the KM and LG portals on. This will be more convenient for editors and users to navigate between the shows. Just bringing this to attention. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 22:01, 14 July 2007 (CDT)
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:: I think that the Portal links should be at the top. So it would go Portal, Videos, Forums, List of Videos. I think it makes more sense considering we're at the 'pedia, so the Portal should be first. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 13:51, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
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::: Yeah, I agree with Chelsey.  I'd fix it but I gave up my sysop rights! :*(  Anybody who has sysop access can change the sidebar here: [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]].--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 16:40, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
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::Done! (I was wondering about that too . . .) :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 16:48, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
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== This is Probably Just Stupid But... ==
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...The main page, i like it but for some reason i don't think it looks wiki like. It is cool but needs to look more like a wiki. But my opinion is just an opinion.
 
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----
"I would like to point out that my desire to improve the template for the vlbogs was sanctioned by the Creators who wanted a template that could support additional information such as cast and production information as well as be consolidated on a single spot on the page. The LGpedia is not quite like the Wikipedia where community consensus must agree before major changes take place. The Creators do get to have final say here; if they want a particular change, it happens. -- Twjaniak 22:00, 15 November 2006 (PST)"
+
:Well, in my opinion, you're wrong :P
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:Seriously, though, pick any other skin, [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=58212&useskin=cologneblue and the old main page looks different as well]. Just because wikipedia has a certain design doesn't make that the ultimate "wiki" design. There are dozens of skins for the MediaWiki software alone, and dozens of other wiki softwares as well. Look at [[MemoryAlpha:Main Page]] - they're using the same software both Wikipedia and LGPedia use - yet they look totally different.
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:We acknowledge your wish to have the main page look more like a generic wikipedia clone, but I, personally, do not support it :P
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::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 09:14, 22 July 2007 (CDT)
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== Why is there something on the main page nere the bottom for... ==
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lonelygirl15, it has the creators, and the "universe". if there was that shouldn't katemodern have one or should the lonelygirl15 one be taken off--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:22, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
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:The 'Universe' encompases both the stories of Kate & Bree, Houdini.  They simply call it the '''LG15 Universe''', becuase, well, LG15 came first. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:39, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
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== New Featured Article ==
 +
 
 +
should there be a new featured article?--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 02:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
 +
 
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I believe so, It has been up there for a while.
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--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 20:19, 6 August 2007 (CDT)
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== Lonelygirl15 Portal image ==
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 +
Eventually do you think that the portal image for lonelygirl should be changed to reflect the fact that bree is no longer?
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Im not saying anyone has to, im just throwing an idea out in the air.
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== beta.lonelygirl15.com ==
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So I see that www.lg15.com/lgpedia has been moved to beta.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia. If anyone could fix any broken links on {{wikipedia|lonelygirl15|Wikipedia}}, that'd be great! I'll get to work on it, but I see some of the links are still at lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia, which as we know, is broken. Bye guys! <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 20:18, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
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:I'm sorry, but I don't even see what youre talking about?  LGPedia links show up for me at lg15.com/lgpedia --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:38, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
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::For a short while, Zoey, the LGPedia was relocated beta.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia. It seems that it has been moved back to lg15.com/lgpedia, though.
 +
 
 +
== Missions and Relationships ==
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Should i move missions and relationships to the main page.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:43, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
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:I'd say that it's a good idea to move Missions and Relationships to the Main Page. :) Go for it, Houdini! <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 01:55, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
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::Well I'm not sure about Missions, but I think Relationships should be seperate for each series, as the page is already long enough as it is. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:03, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
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:Hmmm, Missions could work for the Main page, as it currently has both series in that article.  I do agree with Zoey however, that Relationships would be fine with their respective Portal. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:18, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
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== How about? ==
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How about each month we change it to a charector theme? But I dont think thats a very good idea.
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== New Series Portal Images ==
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Well, with all of the new logos... well now so new anymore... I believe it is past due for a little change. I made a portal image for LG15 first:
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[[Image:LG15 Portal Splash Image.png]]<br>
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I want to get feedback before I make the KateModern image, because that will take a little more work and I don't want to waist my time. Feel free to comment, I personally don't like the way it ways "portal," and need help on what it should look like. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 8:26 PM}}
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::You couldn't copy my response too, Randy?? :P  (Anyways, I think it looks good, and I would suggest having the "Portal" go diagonal-like like the rest of the logo, if possible. -- 18:29, 9 September 2007 (CDT)) [[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:23, 11 September 2007 (CDT)
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:::Caaaan do! (oh and anyone who has better photo-shopping skills than a 13 year old, feel free to jump in. I built that logo from scratch and thats why it doesn't look like the actual logo.) {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Aug 12, '07 - 8:23 PM}}
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== One Year of LGPedia ==
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Did anyone mention before that the LGPedia recently had its one year anniversary?  Kudos to all who have contributed, especially our dear admins.
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The first edit of the main page came on Sept. 29, 2006, and it read:
 +
"Woo hoo! LG15 rocks! Cassieiswatching."
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Sept 29, 2006: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=1405
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Sept 29 later that day, the 1st real main page, by TheNunOwnedGoat: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=1437
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Oct 1, already full of links!: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=2127
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Nov 9:  warning about yousef firing on main page: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=5935
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Jan 4, 2007:  Nicer new header debuts:  http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=16791
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Jan 24:  LGPedia reaches 1 million views.  http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=19692
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March 28: LGPedia reaches 2 millions views.  http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=31776
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May 29:  LGPedia reaches 3 million page views: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=49143
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June 16:  It is noted that LGPedia has exceeded 1,000 articles.  http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=52726
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July 15:  New main page, split between LG15 and KM, debuts: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=58492
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--[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 14:00, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
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:That's awesome, Milowent. Brings back good times. Man, I remember that [[Firing of Yousef]] fiasco and then the [[Glenn Rubenstein]] thing which we were afraid was going to blow up just as big. Somehow the effects really didn't get seen here as much as the forums I don't think. But I just want to say thanks as well to everyone who has contributed. Even though I'm not helping out here as much, I'm always checking out the video pages and reading the notes to catch up on all the stuff that's happening in the LG15 world. Looking forward to another great year!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 14:32, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
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:I remember first visiting the site around this time last year (wasn't even registered then).  Man, times have changed, have they? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 05:18, 8 December 2007 (CST)
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== Featured Content ==
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Since the "Featured Article" hasn't really been working out for some time, I decided to go a new approach. To me, it makes way more sense to have "Featured Content" that rotates fairly regularly. Instead of having to perfect an article and wait while people debate over it and blahblah, with featured content, you should still nominate it, but it won't have to be perfect. It will be much less intense... it can be a new feature we've added to the Pedia, breaking plot news, an article that's just undergone a major revision, even a funny tidbit burried in one of our pages. Hopefully, by featuring "content" instead of just an "article" we'll be able to keep people much better informed of all the great things the wiki has to offer.
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Let me know what you think! (PS Sorry this sounds like a sales pitch, I'm just so excited lol. And now... as it's 5:30 am (which actually means I may have forgotten something I meant to say here... sorry if I did...), I am off to bed :)) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 04:35, 29 November 2007 (CST)
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:I concur.  Make it more like Wikipedia.  Although, we should probably create a template to nominate a page to feature, like they have there, as well.  (And of course a similar page to discuss nominations.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 12:59, 29 November 2007 (CST)
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::I love this idea! '''Strong support.'''
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:::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 17:22, 6 December 2007 (CST)
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:There appears to be no dissenters (no one's responded in a week).  If we do decide to go along with this new approach, what should we feature first?? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:29, 16 December 2007 (CST)
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::Hm, we could feature [[Jan Libby]] now, since I just revamped it a fair bit and she was shouted out in [[Free Love|Sarah's latest videos]]? Trying to think what else... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 15:43, 17 December 2007 (CST)
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== New portal images? ==
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I was just wondering, since KM season 1 has ended, and LG season 2 is coming to a close. should there be a new Portal image? --[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]
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:Maybe, but the problem then becomes ''what'' images would we use? Those two are the best we've got right now. I do think we might want to put the actual logos on them, but that's another matter. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 10:11, 25 January 2008 (CST)
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:I just saw the two new Portal images! I love them! Thank you ,Zoey - Irene([[User:AzukiLotus|AzukiLotus]]) 20:27,14 February 2008 (HKT)
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:Should Kate be in the KateModern portal image? Just a thought...[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]]
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== The Last Work ==
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Can someone change the announcement from prom to the last work [the finale of KateModern.]--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:36, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
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I am not quite sure why you are talking to me about this.  I basically dont care about the templates, it was Jay who raised that issue and solely to make a point.  Templates are not the issue here.  If you have inside information on how the Creators want this site controlled, censored or otherwise manipulated then spill the beans.  Infact why dont the creators create their own page so they can tell us themself.  As for me I would rather work on discussing the story and continuing my research.  I would have been working on the Story up to now, but well we all know what happened to that (read above).  If the Creators want to take control then this is not longer about FREE WILL.  If its about a wiki then its the users that contol it.  Thats the only way it can work.......otherwise is purely propagana and I did not sign up for that.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 22:26, 15 November 2006 (PST)
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== The End==
  
:Yikes! What happened here? Putting in my $.02 as one of the other major contributors, I'd like to point out to modelmotion that while I appreciate your position and the way you feel, we're at the mercy of the fact that this is a community, and the will of a single member of the community is often going to be subsumed by the majority. That's a fact of life and of the system in place here, and I think comparing it to the Stanford Experiment is unfair and extreme. Information about locations ought to be here in the LGPedia, for sure, but the point others have made and I agree with is that just because information is useful doesn't imply that it needs a page all its own. Is there any information on [[The chain-link fence]] that couldn't go in the notes on [[I'm Hiding Out]]? Look, I'm entranced by a [[Talk:Order of Denderah|small detail I noticed]] in the Order of Denderah video, and thought it was worth discussing, but nobody else seemed to find it interesting. Not only did I not create a page for it--or even a page for [[Daniel's religion]], which would be a fair page to make, I think, even with a dearth of information--but I didn't even put it in the notes on that video for now. Yes, we do what we will in a wiki, but we also respect the community. For better or worse, that's what we're fated to, because you have a will, but so do I, and so does JayHenry and twjaniak. If more info is added to the location pages to make them more relevant, I'm all for keeping them, but adding a bunch of pictures doesn't make for more ''real'' content, because they're screencaps of videos that we've already seen. Oh, and as for the Creators making requests of us, I don't see a problem with it. Unless they are outright censoring us, I see it as just another part of free exchange of information. You're doing great work, don't get discouraged by all this. --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 10:51, 16 November 2006 (PST)
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Since this show has ended as well, are we going to do it up like we did with KM after the finale?
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i was also wondering whats going to happen to the main portal images, are those going to the side panel when the new shows premiere?
  
Sometimes you have to go to extremes to cut thru the clutter and it clear where you stand.  If people dont make it clear what they want then things will deteriorate.  Design by committee is never a good idea and i have put a lot of work into the location pages.  A picture is worth a 1000 words and these are not random screen shots.  They are highly selective to make particular points.  People actually prefer pictures and I think that if i can make a point with a picure its just as valid a communication tool.  Further a location pages such as The model draws on multiple videos.  I will save these pages or go down trying.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 11:06, 16 November 2006 (PST)
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== the resistance/The Resistance ==
  
:This is ridiculous. A wiki '''''is''''' design by committee.  This is a community project.  Modelmotion, you're bullying other users to get your way.  If you want everything to be your way, then the Wiki is not the place for it. Design by committee is what a wiki is all about. You really need to calm down, be a little more mature about this, and be respectful to the other users of the Wiki.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 11:18, 16 November 2006 (PST)
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Do we have any official word on the capitalization of the new series? I know it seems trivial, but I notice things like this. The ''trailer'' was posted unitalicized, but the new board on the forum was capitalized. Just wondering if we know for sure yet. --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 23:28, 3 August 2008 (CDT)
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:The group Amanda created on Facebook is lowercase, but aside from that, I haven't seen anything official either way. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 3 August 2008 (CDT)
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::Ah, okay. Thanks, Zoey! --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 23:46, 3 August 2008 (CDT)
  
I am not saying there is not a place for discusssion, and Jay you actually have given me helpful input.  But constructive comment and advice are the way to go, not tyrany or beaurocracy.  As any art director about design by committee.  The objective is not to lower quality to the lowest common denoninator by to tap the passion of invididuals.  I dont see that they location pages are doing any harm and if noone else enjoys them I do and for me that is enough to justify their existence.  Hopefully other users will enjoy enjoy what these.....at least until something better comes along.  Its not me who is doing the bulling here....i have no power.  I am solely exercisiing my opionion and that last time i check that allowed in wiki-land. So can we all just leave this alone now and give the pages the month I was promised to develop?--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 11:24, 16 November 2006 (PST)
 
  
Oh, and Brucker, nice catch on that detail.  I hope you can find a good place to put it.  I think its things that that which should be highlighted and discussed.  Those issues are just as important as creating a video catalogue which has been done very very very well.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 11:35, 16 November 2006 (PST)
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==The Resistance portal image?==
  
:"A picture is worth a thousand words" is a saying that, while sort of true, doesn't neccessarily justify the content on those pages in and of itself. If the list of videos on the front page were removed and replaced by screencaps of each one, it would make the front page ''less'' efficient, informational, and all-around useful. When I look at the present location pages that are mostly a bunch of pictures, I just wonder why they've been placed there. Can we at least have captions and observations? --[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 15:41, 17 November 2006 (PST)
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i was wondering if anyone would like me to make several portal-maybes that we could use as the "click here" image for the main page like all the other shows have.  
  
== Columns? ==
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-[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 23:27, 13 September 2008 (CDT)
  
Might something like this be easier to read in the future? I mean, for now the front page looks pretty good, but when that right-hand column gets far beyond the length of what's on the left, might a re-formatting be in order?
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How about these? A couple of portal images i put together, thoughts? --[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 08:34, 17 September 2008 (CDT)
{{Multi-column numbered list|1|
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[[First Blog / Dorkiness Prevails]]<li>[[Purple Monkey (video)|Purple Monkey]]<li>[[School Work in Summer... BLECHH!!!]]<li>[[The Danielbeast]]<li>[[Grillz feat. Danielbeast, LG15, P. Monkey, and O'n.]]<li>[[My Parents Suck...]]<li>[[Daniel Responds]]<li>[[Daniel Returns, and More Interesting Factoids (Yay!)]]<li>[[Proving Science Wrong!]]<li>[[My Parents... Let Us Go Hiking!!!]]<li>[[Boy Problems...]]<li>[[Girl Problems...]]
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<li>[[He Said, She Said]]
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<li>[[My Lazy Eye (and P. Monkey gets Funky!)]]
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<li>[[Proving Science Wrong... with Lonelybeast and Danielgirl15]]
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<li>[[The Tolstoy Principle (and Dad "talks" to Daniel)]]
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<li>[[Daniel The Neanderthal]]
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<li>[[What Did Daniel and Dad Talk About?]]
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<li>[[What Bree's Dad Said...]]
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<li>[[Me, Religion, and Daniel :(]]
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<li>[[I Probably Shouldn't Post This...]]
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<li>[[Mysteries of My Past... REVEALED!]]
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<li>[[A Peace Offering (and P. Monkey Boogies)]]
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<li>[[To Hell With Bree's Dad (yeah!)]]
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<li>[[I'm Really, Really, Really Excited!]]
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<li>[[Swimming!]] 
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<li>[[Bree The Cookie Monster]]
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<li>[[A Change In My Life]]
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<li>[[Poor Pluto]]
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<li>[[I Want to Take Bree to a Party!]]
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<li>[[Should I Or Shouldn't I?]]
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<li>[[I'm Going to the Party!]]
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<li>[[House Arrest]]
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<li>[[In The Park]]
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<li>[[What's A Date?]]
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<li>[[My First Kiss]]
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<li>[[Learning To Drive]]
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<li>[[The Equinox]]
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<li>[[How Could You?]]
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<li>[[My Difficult Decision]]
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<li>[[Who Is This?]]
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<li>[[My Helper]]
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<li>[[How My Parents Met]]
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<li>[[Where Are They Going?]]
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<li>[[Daniel Crossed The Line]]
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<li>[[Order of Denderah]]
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<li>[[Zodiac of Denderah]]
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<li>[[Aleister Crowley (Video)|Aleister Crowley]]
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<li>[[The Ceremony Is Tomorrow :)]]
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<li>[[The Ceremony]]
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<li>[[I Completed The Ceremony]]
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<li>[[Following The Helper]]
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<li>[[Daniel, Be Careful...]]
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<li>[[Where's Daniel?]]<br>[[Nut Kills Man]] (Gemma)
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<li>[[I'm Hiding Out]]
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<li>[[I Lied To Daniel]]<br>[[Living In London]] (Gemma)
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<li>[[I Listened To Daniel]]
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<li>[[Hi Gemma!]]
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<li>[[It's Not Your Decision]]
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<li>[[I Talked To My Parents]]
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<li>[[Proving Longitude Wrong]]
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<li>[[Thanks Gemma...]]
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<li>[[They Disappeared...]]
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<li>[[What Makes Us Sad?]]
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<li>[[Life's Not Fair]]
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<li>[[Still At Daniel's]]
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<li>[[Where Are My Parents?]]
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<li>[[Horrid Flatmates]]
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<li>[[On The Run]]
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<li>[[Learning Egyptian]]
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<li>[[Motel Pool]]
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<li>[[Don't Trust The Authorities]]
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<li>[[Exploring The Motel]]
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<li>[[Someone's Following You]]
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<li>[[Man In The Suit]]
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<li>[[Breakfast In Bed]]
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<li>[[A Watcher]]
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Man that's sloppy. Still, there's gotta be a way to make it work better.--[[User:Brucker|Brucker]] 16:18, 17 November 2006 (PST)
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Why not a click through to a page with a directory of videos like you have above.  The bigger the list gets the more its going to be needed that anyway. It was nice while it lasted having them on the home page but is it essential?  Yes, they are really important but I could probably live with them being on their own page.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 16:41, 17 November 2006 (PST)
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[[Image:LG15_Resistance_Portal1.jpg]]
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[[Image:LG15_Resistance_Portal2.jpg]]
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[[Image:LG15_Resistance_Portal3.jpg]]
  
:I was just thinking that it might be nice to be able to simple create a list of Bree, Daniel or Gemma vidoes. I dont know of any non manual way to do that but perhaps there is some Web 2.0/Ajax feature that would allow the creation of a table that could be sorted by Character or any other parameter listed. This is just food for thought but if anyone knows how to actually do that it would be brilliant.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 14:28, 22 November 2006 (CST)
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:I'm going to say no to those, only because the main page is going to be redesigned inside of two weeks. The design Zoey and I were toying around with eliminates the need for those entry images. That, and if we added one in right now, it would look mega weird, since The Resistance doesn't have the polygon shape to it, unlike the other boxes. I should have said this earlier, but I had completely forgotten about it. (I like the last one the best, though. ;) ) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 04:00, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
  
==Special Request from the Creators==
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::I'd say that is a better idea then Shiori, at least then the pictures won't need updating every season. --[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 04:46, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
Its now past Nov 20!--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 06:38, 23 November 2006 (CST)
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==Jonas....official or not?==
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==Thin?==
What standard are we using of proclaiming characters official or not. My litmus test would be whether or not they have been added to the official videos on lonelygirl15.com. A comment does not make it official. A mention in a video is probably not sufficient. A lot of cirsumstantial evidence is ok, but is it enought. A comment from the Creators in the forum might be interesting but if its not on the official list is it official. Jonas is probably official, but I do not believe he has yet been declared official....or did I miss something????--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 15:31, 27 November 2006 (CST)
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I was wondering what is up with the new Pedia... the background looks great, but on the whole, it looks very... thin in my browser. It seems like it used to fill more space, but now seems to have a lot of dead air out to the sides. Just wondering... --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 14:30, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
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:Your're right. I like it except for the thinness, as it seems to have destroyed many of the layouts. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:46, 16 September 2008 (EST)
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::I think it may have been altered for it's integration with the new site. If you look how the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki MediaWiki] software that the pedia uses it looks like the pedia is a lot more compact. Perhaps asking in the forums or making a suggestion that it be put back so that it doesn't mess with layouts. --[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 16:05, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
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::I made a [http://www.lg15.com/bbsposts/list/2/35/78/1 thread] in the new forum and Broken Kid wants to know what pages don't display properly. --[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 16:44, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
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:::Of the pages I've seen so far. the main pages for LG and KM are off from what I can tell. Also, the headers for pages such as behind the scenes, soundtracks, cast & crew, the video lists . . . most banners are overlapping on themselves due to be "squished." --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 17:43, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
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::::If need be, after we've got the redesign of The Resistance Portal and the main page in place, I can go over everything and do a brand new redesign from the ground up. The KM and lg15 stuff should be easy, though. I can just do a minor rewrite to get those working - I'm mainly referring to redesigning the header template. I hated how it looked for the longest time, and now we actually have a reason to get rid of it. :P - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 03:27, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
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:::::Are their any technical solutions that would allow for the Eqal navigation bar but would also allow for a variable page width as suggested by KindredPhantom. What would be the pro/con of variable width vs fixed width in terms of the general design of LGPedia pages? Would it be worth while to set a minimum width to lock in design features but allow for variable width wider than that for those who prefer to use a wider browser window? Food for thought.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 05:14, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
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::::::Is no one else affected by the fixed width of LGPedia? I doubt that everyone who visits it and work on it views it on a 1024x768 monitor, it cannot be just me that it annoys that feels that it should be returned to how it originally was?
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::::::It would be nice if others joined in the [http://www.lg15.com/bbsposts/list/2/35/78/1 discussion]we are having about it, if more people add their opinion to it and ask for it to be changed back then it doesn’t look like something only a couple of people care about. It’s much better in numbers, a unified voice.--[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 07:38, 23 September 2008 (CDT)
  
== HTML Problem ==
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== Main Page redesign(?) ==
  
Just wanted to make a note of it: There was a massive HTML problem that basically destroyed the page. I'm not sure exactly what the author was trying to do, but it destroyed the page. I reverted it to the last good copy. --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 22:04, 25 November 2006 (CST)
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The fact that there are two blank logos next to the N1ckola one is bothering the crap out of me, and I've been trying to fix it with no such luck. So, I was thinking, for the time being, while there are only four EQAL-produced LG15 Franchise shows, we could use the images that mm uploaded and has over at [[User:Modelmotion/main]]. Of course, not that exact layout, but something with those images, that wouldn't look bad if we had four in a row. Just because it's bugging the crap out of me. Then, once we get our promised Italy and Japan shows, we could revert back to these logos since we'd have six EQAL LG15 shows. What do you think? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:Kevin|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Kevin•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]]</span> 15:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
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:Could you do a mock-up of what it would look like? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:16, 29 July 2009 (EST)

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Talk Archive for Main Page


How about with colors?

0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg


Bree Daniel Jonas
Hurrah for colors! I love this so much. silverX3 08:46, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
I definitely prefer it without the colors. Too many clashing colors is never good design. --JayHenry 09:15, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
The colors are nice and I like how they match up with the colors id'ing the bloggers on the right side of the page. If you look at the new box along with the rest of the main page, it works. Malan89 22:08, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
I agree with Malan89 the whole way. Live? silverX3 16:22, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
I really think it looks bad. Those aren't even the same colors as the initials. They don't match at all. --JayHenry 16:27, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
Don't worry about it for now. I think we may be adding a "Taylor" block soon. Malan89 20:32, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
Please no colors, I'm serious. The Main Page really doesn't need to be tricked out. It has a simple color scheme that works great, and it has some pictures and color accents (like in the Init template) to keep things just interesting enough. I'm actually not a fan of the colored boxes on the characters page either, but if you want to have a little fun with that, fine by me, just leave the main page as is, it looks much more polished and put together without the rainbow of fruity flavors. Like Malan said, perhaps we should be more concerned with whether to add Taylor, Sarah, or Taylor&Sarah together to the Main block. They've already done their first "official" blog on their own, on the left-hand column. Quite the milestone for them. OwenIsCool 21:27, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
I'm ok with addeing them, but i think we should wait till it's certain they are going to last beyond this story arc, same thing for Jules. -misty 15:43, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
I agree. Everyone thought Alex was going to be a main character (and she still could be recurring) but we haven't seen her in ages. Let's be patient with with Taylor, Sarah, and Jules --Pheon 20:58, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

Navigation menu

Why do we need a link to this page on the navigation menu on the left? Again, it just forces down the search box with no improvement to the utility of LGPedia. There are already simple ways for getting back here so this link is just a total waste and very annoying because it leads to more scrolling than is desired.--modelmotion 20:58, 8 April 2009 (CDT)

Breeniverse Timeline

Now that the Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up and brought up to date, we should add it to the main page -misty 15:38, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

The Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up? Finally? I GOTTA GO CHECK THAT OUT! *hops away giddily* silverX3 16:56, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

Sarah and Taylor

Okay, now that Sarah and Taylor have both posted their own video blogs that have been posted on the main site, I think it's reasonable to add them to the main page. I mean, if they don't end up lasting past this arc, we can always remove them. They just seem significant enough at this point to merit a front-page character box. Thoughts? --Zoey 22:37, 30 May 2007 (CDT)

I agree with putting them up. The Creators are obviously doing a thorough job trying to fill out these characters with their personalities, their relationships, and their parental issues, so I think they'll be up for awhile. I didn't expect Sarah to actually POST anything outside of a Myspace Blog so soon, but I stand corrected. --Pheon 11:37, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, I went through and found some good images of Sarah and Taylor. They will probably need to be cropped better to match up with the other characters, but I wanted to get some options up. What do people think (I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3, personally)?

0185-Sarah-in-Car.jpg 0202-Sarah-Quotes.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg 0184-SarahHoldingLipstick-Cropped.jpg Sarahimageforfc.jpg
Sarah 1 Sarah 2 Sarah 3 Sarah 4 Sarah 5


0185-Taylor.jpg TAY001-TaylorSmiling.jpg Taylor-IRecognizeHer.jpg
Taylor 1 Taylor 2 Taylor 3

--Zoey 14:20, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 as well (very Secret Agent-y . . . don't ask). But I'm stuck between Sarah 1,3, AND 5. 1 just seems to have that Sarah-randomn-quality to it, 3 (besides the obvious) is from her first v-blog, and 5 matches up with her profile (currently). So I'm stuck on Sarah. --Pheon 15:35, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3. Taylor 2 and Sarah 5 are also good. --XAccordianGuyx 19:51, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3 as well. The other two Taylor photos are also good in that... well, that room is where you usually see her. But I stand T1 and S3. I'm glad we're adding them to the front page. --Chartreuse 20:33, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, it seems like T1 and S3 are the consensus? Can anyone crop them so that their heads are the same size as the other chars on the front page? Oh and also...

0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg 0185-Taylor.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas Taylor Sarah

OR

0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas
0185-Taylor.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg
Taylor Sarah

OR um, yeah. How should we handle the alignment with five chars? --Zoey 20:47, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Here's a go at front-page quality images. They look bad full size, but I adjusted the face sizing and the saturation (only on Taylor's because it looked so bland between Jonas and Sarah).
0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg 0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas Taylor Sarah
I guess that looks a little more consistent? Just trying to help. --Chartreuse 22:08, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
I'm loving this group of five! So . . . on the alignment,I would prefer upside-down pyramid, if it's not too hard (The codes above look nightmare-ish). It just looks like a horizontal band of five characters would just be too long. --Pheon 02:43, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I feel like the Sarah pic needs to be SLIGHTLY zoomed in more to make her face size more consistant with the rest. I hope thats not too big a problem. Oh, and maybe she should be desaturated.. shes like.. noticably brighter than everyone else... But basically, other than that, are we good to go?

0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas
0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg
Taylor Sarah

Here's what I've got based on the current consesus. Like I said, I think Sarah's head should overall be larger to match with the rest of the chars but yeah. Oh, and I iike the saturation on Taylor. Yay, I can't wait for this to go live :D --Zoey 02:50, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Alright, I resized and recropped Sarah, desaturated and darkened her just the slightest bit (sorry, boys, had to crop the cleavage), so I think she fits in a bit more now. Also, I tweaked the previous code so that the border between Taylor and Sarah is only 1 pixel instead of two. I do like the pyramid... it kind of gives the feel of them being secondary main characters. Plus, it won't stretch things in lower resolutions. --Chartreuse 20:32, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
I think it looks GREAT!!! If there are no objections shortly, I'll put it up on the main page. Great work everyone!! --Zoey 20:36, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
I strongly Object to the Pyramid layout. you put it up before anyone had time to object -misty 23:14, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
It look fantabulous! Great job Zoey, Chartreuse, and everyone who figured out the new character-pyramid! --Pheon 21:41, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
I think it ould look better as a single line with smaller images. the pyramid looks awfull -misty 23:09, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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Bree Daniel Jonas Taylor Sarah
The only problem with this is that it's going to look awful on lower resolutions. It'll stretch things all out of whack. I think the most characters you can have side-by-side is going to be four. It really is a shame we don't have one more character to try and balance the pyramid out. --Chartreuse 01:02, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I REALLY like the way it looks. However, the two columns on the Main Page are now very uneven. For this, I have a suggestion... how about we list the last 5 videos with thumbnails and descriptions, as opposed to 4? It's more consistent with the 5 "previous videos," and it will make the page look much more balanced. Y/N? ~ Jbshryne 23:30, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I was actually thinking the same, but I thought, 'Hmmm . . . better let someone else bring it up first' --Pheon 23:55, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I do actually kind of like the smaller images lined up in one row, but I still worry about what it will do to the page with smaller resolutions. Does anyone with a smaller resolution want to check this out maybe? --Zoey 02:23, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

in 1024X768 it looks great with 90px images but we can also reduce down to 80px images too. none of the formatted pages look good at 800x600, but I don't think we need to worry about that, since almost no one has a 13 inch monitor anymore. -misty 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
without objection I will change the page 12 hours from now. -misty 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
Sounds great to me. No objections here. --Chartreuse 12:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
Sure, sounds fine. ~ Jbshryne 13:28, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
Yeah . . . big pics in a pyramid, small pics in a line, whatever's clever --Pheon 14:34, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

Swap Taylor and Sarah

I noticed that FH14 just switched Taylor's and Sarah's boxes. I assume this is because Sarah is getting a bigger role now than Taylor? I reverted the change so it could be discussed and also because the borders didn't look quite right. If people want the pictures swapped, just offer your support here and we'll go ahead and do it. As a general rule, though, the Main Page shouldn't be changed without first getting consensus as it is the most viewed page on the 'pedia.--Jonpro 16:58, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

I agree that Sarah's become a more important character (thank god!), so she should be first. ~ Jbshryne 13:47, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
I also agree. It would make sense, seeing as it seems as though Taylor has faded out of the picture. --Bxman 18:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Okay, I went ahead and changed it. Thanks for the input, Jbshryne and Brooklynxman!--Jonpro 22:11, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
And you know, with the angle of Taylor's face in that pic, it works better as an end-piece. :-> ~ JBSHRYNE 02:15, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
I like it... and it also works alphabetically! Psmith 09:40, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Jonas' Picture

Chelseyrl 21:56, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
My only concern with this one is that it was previously edited by my friend. Chelseyrl 22:35, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Is it at all possible for Jonas' picture to be sharper? Otherwise, I think we should replace it. I do have another picture in mind. I remember the discussion of picture changes a month or so ago, but I think his picture needs to be either sharper or changed. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion. Chelseyrl 20:16, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

I agree. I always thought the picture wasn't sharp enough. I would love to see the picture you had in mind.--jeans
I concur, and besides, that picture isn't doing justice to his looks. --truncatedslinky 21:34, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
I like jonasdontticke.jpg (the left image)!!! If you need it cropped/adjusted, let me know. --Chartreuse 23:01, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
Yes, I love the one on the left as well! I think it would be great cropped. --jeans
Any mods like to put their input? Chelseyrl 22:37, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
The only mod I've seen around lately is Zoey. As for me, the left one rocks. ~ Jbshryne 13:42, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Oh, foot in mouth, JonPro just commented above. Anyway, yeah, I'd say at this point, we've got a consensus. ~ Jbshryne 13:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

Oh, me! :P I vote yes! I really like the left picture :) --Zoey 21:20, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

As do I. I just don't know how to change it on the main page. So can we go through with it?Chelseyrl 21:21, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Someone will need to crop it so that it matches the size/ratio formats of the current images, and then it can be added. Once it's modified I can add it if ya want :P. That's not a problem. We just need to get it looking right! --Zoey 21:24, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
I'd crop it... but I have no idea what the current size/ratio format is. Chelseyrl 21:25, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
I cropped it to the size, but perhaps not to the ratio. If it's wrong, revert it. ~ JBSHRYNE 01:44, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
Yeah, his face was too big. Grr. I'll try again... in photoshop. ~ JBSHRYNE 01:46, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
Um... you know what? Bad news. There might not be enough "picture" around Jonas's face in that shot (even in the original video) to use that picture, because everybody else's faces are smaller in their pictures, in comparison to their "backgrounds."  :-( ~ JBSHRYNE 01:54, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
Yeah, I just tried to play with it... and you can get it to the same size and shape, but his face is way too close to the camera to bring it out and make him match the rest of them. I rewatched that same video to look for a place where there could have been a more usable screenshot, but to no avail. I'm going to go through some recent videos to look for a good screenshot. --Chartreuse 09:28, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
You know, how do we feel about a shot from The Morning After? Just looking at the thumbnail that's on the page right now, it looks like the size/ratio would pretty much match up perfectly with the others. The only problems I can see: (1) we would probably want to wait through a few more videos, so we don't have 2 shots from the same video on the Main Page, and (2) he's kind of half-naked (though that might be less of a problem for some than for others...) ~ JBSHRYNE 17:35, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
Too bad his hair isn't up to par. :( --jeans
I found another option for a picture. I looked through a lot of videos and not many of them have very good potential screenshots. This one was the best I could find at the moment. Any thoughts?--jeans


Ya know, I was totally thinking the same thing JB... but I didn't know if it would be okay with everyone with him with his shirt off. Granted, I'd love it, but my decision wasn't based on my "fan-girl"-ness. Chelseyrl 19:29, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
I too like the idea. :)--jeans


It may be difficult to find a good picture of Jonas where the camera is sufficiently distant from his face. See below for 5 pictures of Jonas: the current pic, the current pic sharpened, and 3 new pics from the latest video. However, when you put one of the new pics alongside the other characters, you can see that Jonas's face is too close to the camera. So far, I vote to use the sharpened version of the current pic unless someone can upload some more alternatives (or point me to the relevant video and scene for more photo ideas). Psmith 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg 0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg 0209-JonasToplessInBed-Cropped.jpg 0209-JonasLaughingInBed-Cropped.jpg 0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg
Jonas 1 Jonas 2 Jonas 3 Jonas 4 Jonas 5


0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg 0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas Sarah Taylor


0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg 0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas Sarah Taylor
Psmith 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)


Haha, those three new ones actually kind of scare me. I vote for the sharpened current one too. --Zoey 11:38, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Man... why does that pic from Bedside Manner have to be too big?? Yeah, I agree, the sharpened current is already a huge improvement. The Creators had better give us a nice shot of him soon, from far enough away... ~ JBSHRYNE 16:45, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
I agree, the sharpened version of the current picture is WAY cool.--jeans
I also agree, but it is higher in contrast and saturation than the others, I think that it should be the benchmark and the others should be matched to it since all of them are a little too dull. -misty 01:29, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
I also enjoy seeing a clearer version of the current picture of Jonas. Keep the same shot, just pick the clearer one! --Pheon 01:48, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
I love the sharper version. Great job whoever did it! Chelseyrl 23:06, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
OK, it looks like you all like the sharpened version so I'll go ahead and update the main page. Misty, I'll look at adjusting the sharpness of the other headshots too, but I'll post them here first. Psmith 09:39, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
Tada!--jeans July 11

I'm going to just throw another headshot out there and see if anyone likes it better than the current one. It obviously would still need to be properly cropped and sized.--jeans July 11

I love this! I was actually thinking "he looks so nice" as I was watching this video today. --Chartreuse 15:36, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
=D Me too.--jeans 16:06, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
Haha, this is the main reason I came to the discussion page tonight. I am all for this (of course, if it's possible). Chelseyrl 00:59, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

Adding Spencer, changing sizes.

Because it has been announced that Spencer will be with us as a series regular for at least the next two months, should we add him to the front page? If we do, we'll have to change the sizes of the character images because five on the top and one on the bottom would look kind of cluttered. Love, -R- 18:10, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

(EDIT: we could also make the sizes bigger to make it three on the top, three on the bottom) Love, -R- 18:12, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

I had been playing with that earlier today, actually! My Sandbox --Chartreuse 18:15, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Oh, I see! I'm glad you're working with it! Love, -R- 18:20, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Any feedback would be lovely. This is what I have at this point:
0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas
0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg 0222-SpencerLaughing-Cropped.jpg
Taylor Sarah Spencer
i like that. 5 across was looking a little long to me, actually --Milowent 07:54, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

I think it's a fine idea, and it looks good, but I propose we wait to make any changes until we make the whole Portal pages live, just so we don't overcomplicate things. *nods* --Zoey 18:40, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Oh, that's what I had figured on, which is why it was just on my sandbox page for now. I just had Photoshop open at the same time as Spencer's latest, so I was like... HMMM... *nods back* --Chartreuse 18:46, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Okay awesome :) Ooh, hey, if you've still got PS open, someone needs to crop the images on User:Zoey/sandbox to make them fit in the boxes properly. It might involve cropping.. or adding like.. a white background or something.. I dont know, whatever to make it look good. But yeah, just a though, especially if you have PS opened already :) Thanks. --Zoey 18:50, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
O.O! I refuse to admit to the fact that I had already been messing with them. Scary! --Chartreuse 18:55, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
*raises hand* I volunteer to crop *runs to PhotoPlus* MEEP Love, -R- 19:27, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
And heeeerrrreee we go!
LG15PortalImageCropped.jpg
KateModernPortalImageCropped.jpg
I'll go ahead and put them in your sandbox now, Zoey. Love, -R- 19:47, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

The LG one looks good, but does the KM one look slightly fuzzy to anyone else? Is that fixable? Gah, I hope we get the "new" cast photos Miles promised soon, I don't like how these two are so vastly different in sizes with the people (the Kate cast is so BIG compared to the LG cast! Haha). Other than that though, I think it's good. Anyone else have any thoughts? --Zoey 20:25, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

With the KM one, it was already fuzzy. That is the sharpened version, but I'll sharpen it a bit more. Love, -R- 20:26, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
OK, hows this:
KateModernPortalImageSharpened.jpg
It's increased a little bit. Love, -R- 20:32, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
(Ooops, wrong size (and I airbrushed a little bit.) Here:
KateModernPortalImageAirbrushed.jpg
Hows that?) Love, -R- 20:37, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Those look nice. Only thing I recommend (if possible) is sharpening around Gavin's head and Kate's head. Otherwise it's a vast improvement. Chelseyrl 00:58, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
Ok, I went a little airbrush crazy on this one, but deal with it. The shadows were bugging me.
KateModernPortalImagePhotoshopped.jpg
Soooo...? Love, -R- 01:46, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
On second thought, I don't like it. What is everyone else's opinion? Love, -R- 01:58, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

Adding on to the navigation

Whoever has access to edit the navigation bar on the side will soon need to add the KM and LG portals on. This will be more convenient for editors and users to navigate between the shows. Just bringing this to attention. Love, -R- 22:01, 14 July 2007 (CDT)

I think that the Portal links should be at the top. So it would go Portal, Videos, Forums, List of Videos. I think it makes more sense considering we're at the 'pedia, so the Portal should be first. Chelseyrl 13:51, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
Yeah, I agree with Chelsey. I'd fix it but I gave up my sysop rights! :*( Anybody who has sysop access can change the sidebar here: MediaWiki:Sidebar.--JayHenry 16:40, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
Done! (I was wondering about that too . . .) :) --Pheon 16:48, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

This is Probably Just Stupid But...

...The main page, i like it but for some reason i don't think it looks wiki like. It is cool but needs to look more like a wiki. But my opinion is just an opinion.


Well, in my opinion, you're wrong :P
Seriously, though, pick any other skin, and the old main page looks different as well. Just because wikipedia has a certain design doesn't make that the ultimate "wiki" design. There are dozens of skins for the MediaWiki software alone, and dozens of other wiki softwares as well. Look at MemoryAlpha:Main Page - they're using the same software both Wikipedia and LGPedia use - yet they look totally different.
We acknowledge your wish to have the main page look more like a generic wikipedia clone, but I, personally, do not support it :P
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 09:14, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

Why is there something on the main page nere the bottom for...

lonelygirl15, it has the creators, and the "universe". if there was that shouldn't katemodern have one or should the lonelygirl15 one be taken off--Houdini 15:22, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

The 'Universe' encompases both the stories of Kate & Bree, Houdini. They simply call it the LG15 Universe, becuase, well, LG15 came first. --Pheon 15:39, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

New Featured Article

should there be a new featured article?--Houdini 02:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)


I believe so, It has been up there for a while.

--Michiev 20:19, 6 August 2007 (CDT)


Lonelygirl15 Portal image

Eventually do you think that the portal image for lonelygirl should be changed to reflect the fact that bree is no longer?

Im not saying anyone has to, im just throwing an idea out in the air.

beta.lonelygirl15.com

So I see that www.lg15.com/lgpedia has been moved to beta.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia. If anyone could fix any broken links on Wikipedia, that'd be great! I'll get to work on it, but I see some of the links are still at lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia, which as we know, is broken. Bye guys!   •Silver•   Talk | Contribs 20:18, 8 August 2007 (CDT)

I'm sorry, but I don't even see what youre talking about? LGPedia links show up for me at lg15.com/lgpedia --Zoey 23:38, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
For a short while, Zoey, the LGPedia was relocated beta.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia. It seems that it has been moved back to lg15.com/lgpedia, though.

Missions and Relationships

Should i move missions and relationships to the main page.--Houdini 17:43, 13 August 2007 (CDT)

I'd say that it's a good idea to move Missions and Relationships to the Main Page. :) Go for it, Houdini!   •Silver•   Talk | Contribs 01:55, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Well I'm not sure about Missions, but I think Relationships should be seperate for each series, as the page is already long enough as it is. --Zoey 02:03, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Hmmm, Missions could work for the Main page, as it currently has both series in that article. I do agree with Zoey however, that Relationships would be fine with their respective Portal. --Pheon 02:18, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

How about?

How about each month we change it to a charector theme? But I dont think thats a very good idea.

New Series Portal Images

Well, with all of the new logos... well now so new anymore... I believe it is past due for a little change. I made a portal image for LG15 first: LG15 Portal Splash Image.png
I want to get feedback before I make the KateModern image, because that will take a little more work and I don't want to waist my time. Feel free to comment, I personally don't like the way it ways "portal," and need help on what it should look like. Love, Randy (Say Wha'? | Whachu Doin'?) [Sept. 09, '07 - 8:26 PM, Central Daylight]

You couldn't copy my response too, Randy?? :P (Anyways, I think it looks good, and I would suggest having the "Portal" go diagonal-like like the rest of the logo, if possible. -- 18:29, 9 September 2007 (CDT)) Pheon 21:23, 11 September 2007 (CDT)
Caaaan do! (oh and anyone who has better photo-shopping skills than a 13 year old, feel free to jump in. I built that logo from scratch and thats why it doesn't look like the actual logo.) Love, Randy (Say Wha'? | Whachu Doin'?) [Aug 12, '07 - 8:23 PM, Central Daylight]


One Year of LGPedia

Did anyone mention before that the LGPedia recently had its one year anniversary? Kudos to all who have contributed, especially our dear admins.

The first edit of the main page came on Sept. 29, 2006, and it read: "Woo hoo! LG15 rocks! Cassieiswatching." Sept 29, 2006: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=1405

Sept 29 later that day, the 1st real main page, by TheNunOwnedGoat: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=1437

Oct 1, already full of links!: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=2127

Nov 9: warning about yousef firing on main page: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=5935

Jan 4, 2007: Nicer new header debuts: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=16791

Jan 24: LGPedia reaches 1 million views. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=19692

March 28: LGPedia reaches 2 millions views. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=31776

May 29: LGPedia reaches 3 million page views: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=49143

June 16: It is noted that LGPedia has exceeded 1,000 articles. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=52726

July 15: New main page, split between LG15 and KM, debuts: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=58492

--Milowent 14:00, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

That's awesome, Milowent. Brings back good times. Man, I remember that Firing of Yousef fiasco and then the Glenn Rubenstein thing which we were afraid was going to blow up just as big. Somehow the effects really didn't get seen here as much as the forums I don't think. But I just want to say thanks as well to everyone who has contributed. Even though I'm not helping out here as much, I'm always checking out the video pages and reading the notes to catch up on all the stuff that's happening in the LG15 world. Looking forward to another great year!--Jonpro 14:32, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
I remember first visiting the site around this time last year (wasn't even registered then). Man, times have changed, have they? --Pheon 05:18, 8 December 2007 (CST)

Featured Content

Since the "Featured Article" hasn't really been working out for some time, I decided to go a new approach. To me, it makes way more sense to have "Featured Content" that rotates fairly regularly. Instead of having to perfect an article and wait while people debate over it and blahblah, with featured content, you should still nominate it, but it won't have to be perfect. It will be much less intense... it can be a new feature we've added to the Pedia, breaking plot news, an article that's just undergone a major revision, even a funny tidbit burried in one of our pages. Hopefully, by featuring "content" instead of just an "article" we'll be able to keep people much better informed of all the great things the wiki has to offer.

Let me know what you think! (PS Sorry this sounds like a sales pitch, I'm just so excited lol. And now... as it's 5:30 am (which actually means I may have forgotten something I meant to say here... sorry if I did...), I am off to bed :)) --Zoey 04:35, 29 November 2007 (CST)

I concur. Make it more like Wikipedia. Although, we should probably create a template to nominate a page to feature, like they have there, as well. (And of course a similar page to discuss nominations.) - Shiori 12:59, 29 November 2007 (CST)
I love this idea! Strong support.
  •Silver•   Talk | Contribs 17:22, 6 December 2007 (CST)
There appears to be no dissenters (no one's responded in a week). If we do decide to go along with this new approach, what should we feature first?? --Pheon 18:29, 16 December 2007 (CST)
Hm, we could feature Jan Libby now, since I just revamped it a fair bit and she was shouted out in Sarah's latest videos? Trying to think what else... --Zoey 15:43, 17 December 2007 (CST)


New portal images?

I was just wondering, since KM season 1 has ended, and LG season 2 is coming to a close. should there be a new Portal image? --Michiev

Maybe, but the problem then becomes what images would we use? Those two are the best we've got right now. I do think we might want to put the actual logos on them, but that's another matter. - Shiori 10:11, 25 January 2008 (CST)
I just saw the two new Portal images! I love them! Thank you ,Zoey - Irene(AzukiLotus) 20:27,14 February 2008 (HKT)
Should Kate be in the KateModern portal image? Just a thought...Babygurl1853

The Last Work

Can someone change the announcement from prom to the last work [the finale of KateModern.]--Houdini 14:36, 17 June 2008 (CDT)


The End

Since this show has ended as well, are we going to do it up like we did with KM after the finale? i was also wondering whats going to happen to the main portal images, are those going to the side panel when the new shows premiere?

the resistance/The Resistance

Do we have any official word on the capitalization of the new series? I know it seems trivial, but I notice things like this. The trailer was posted unitalicized, but the new board on the forum was capitalized. Just wondering if we know for sure yet. --Andy 23:28, 3 August 2008 (CDT)

The group Amanda created on Facebook is lowercase, but aside from that, I haven't seen anything official either way. --Zoey 23:32, 3 August 2008 (CDT)
Ah, okay. Thanks, Zoey! --Andy 23:46, 3 August 2008 (CDT)


The Resistance portal image?

i was wondering if anyone would like me to make several portal-maybes that we could use as the "click here" image for the main page like all the other shows have.

-Michiev 23:27, 13 September 2008 (CDT)

How about these? A couple of portal images i put together, thoughts? --KindredPhantom 08:34, 17 September 2008 (CDT)

LG15 Resistance Portal1.jpg LG15 Resistance Portal2.jpg LG15 Resistance Portal3.jpg

I'm going to say no to those, only because the main page is going to be redesigned inside of two weeks. The design Zoey and I were toying around with eliminates the need for those entry images. That, and if we added one in right now, it would look mega weird, since The Resistance doesn't have the polygon shape to it, unlike the other boxes. I should have said this earlier, but I had completely forgotten about it. (I like the last one the best, though. ;) ) - Shiori 04:00, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
I'd say that is a better idea then Shiori, at least then the pictures won't need updating every season. --KindredPhantom 04:46, 20 September 2008 (CDT)

Thin?

I was wondering what is up with the new Pedia... the background looks great, but on the whole, it looks very... thin in my browser. It seems like it used to fill more space, but now seems to have a lot of dead air out to the sides. Just wondering... --Greenie 14:30, 16 September 2008 (CDT)

Your're right. I like it except for the thinness, as it seems to have destroyed many of the layouts. --FH14 15:46, 16 September 2008 (EST)
I think it may have been altered for it's integration with the new site. If you look how the MediaWiki software that the pedia uses it looks like the pedia is a lot more compact. Perhaps asking in the forums or making a suggestion that it be put back so that it doesn't mess with layouts. --KindredPhantom 16:05, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
I made a thread in the new forum and Broken Kid wants to know what pages don't display properly. --KindredPhantom 16:44, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
Of the pages I've seen so far. the main pages for LG and KM are off from what I can tell. Also, the headers for pages such as behind the scenes, soundtracks, cast & crew, the video lists . . . most banners are overlapping on themselves due to be "squished." --Pheon 17:43, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
If need be, after we've got the redesign of The Resistance Portal and the main page in place, I can go over everything and do a brand new redesign from the ground up. The KM and lg15 stuff should be easy, though. I can just do a minor rewrite to get those working - I'm mainly referring to redesigning the header template. I hated how it looked for the longest time, and now we actually have a reason to get rid of it. :P - Shiori 03:27, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
Are their any technical solutions that would allow for the Eqal navigation bar but would also allow for a variable page width as suggested by KindredPhantom. What would be the pro/con of variable width vs fixed width in terms of the general design of LGPedia pages? Would it be worth while to set a minimum width to lock in design features but allow for variable width wider than that for those who prefer to use a wider browser window? Food for thought.--modelmotion 05:14, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
Is no one else affected by the fixed width of LGPedia? I doubt that everyone who visits it and work on it views it on a 1024x768 monitor, it cannot be just me that it annoys that feels that it should be returned to how it originally was?
It would be nice if others joined in the discussionwe are having about it, if more people add their opinion to it and ask for it to be changed back then it doesn’t look like something only a couple of people care about. It’s much better in numbers, a unified voice.--KindredPhantom 07:38, 23 September 2008 (CDT)

Main Page redesign(?)

The fact that there are two blank logos next to the N1ckola one is bothering the crap out of me, and I've been trying to fix it with no such luck. So, I was thinking, for the time being, while there are only four EQAL-produced LG15 Franchise shows, we could use the images that mm uploaded and has over at User:Modelmotion/main. Of course, not that exact layout, but something with those images, that wouldn't look bad if we had four in a row. Just because it's bugging the crap out of me. Then, once we get our promised Italy and Japan shows, we could revert back to these logos since we'd have six EQAL LG15 shows. What do you think?   •Kevin•   15:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Could you do a mock-up of what it would look like? --FH14 13:16, 29 July 2009 (EST)