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== Talk Archive for Main Page ==
 
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*[[Talk:Main Page/redesign | Archive of final redesign discussion]]
 
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==Features==
 
Does anybody else think that the featured article should be at the top of the page?  Maybe somebody could try making the top header smaller and sticking it to above the table and using the white space above Latest Developments for the featured article.  I hope that makes sense, I tried to visualize it.  Just a thought. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:25, 25 March 2007 (CDT)
 
  
==Char. List/Gemma==
 
  
I switched the positions of Gemma and Jonas on the Char. List.  It might have been alphabetical, sorry if I messed that up.  I just think Jonas has surpassed Gemma in importance in the story, considering that his Dad was studing the Order. [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:31, 6 March 2007 (CST)
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===How about with colors? ===
:Well, they were really (at least in my mind) in order of appearance, but some people have talked about taking Gemma out of that box completely. Personally, I liked it as it was before, but maybe we should revisit the issue. <span style="color:Blue">'''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])'''''</span> 21:40, 6 March 2007 (CST)
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
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::It's probably time to take Gemma out.  Or at least make her image redirect to [[plot holes]].  I thought there'd be some resolution or fallout since her presumed death two months ago.  I guess not.  But she's definitely no longer a main character.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 21:44, 6 March 2007 (CST)
 
  
:::It would make sense for them to be in order of appearance.  But, I think Gemma is definitely not a main character anymore.  Maybe we could have another link to her page and a link to plot holes somewhere in a different section.  I guess we'll see how the vote going on a few lines north of here pans out. --[[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 19:40, 7 March 2007 (CST)
 
  
::::I'm expecting Alex to become a main character, and if so, I have uplodaed a [[:Image:AlexChar.jpg|picture of her]] in the proper format to replace Gemma, as she probably should. <span style="color:Blue">'''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])'''''</span> 13:14, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
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|align=center style="background:MidnightBlue; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:DarkOrange; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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:::::I sure hope you're right. The first Alex vlog is going to be a momentous occasion if it happens. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 13:16, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
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:Hurrah for colors! I love this so much. [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 08:46, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
  
:::::I doubt Alex is going to start blogging. she's not exactly going to want to connect with us, gain our sympathy. but I think she should already be a main character, whether or not she's actually done a vlog. she's definitely more important right now than Gemma, and while she hasn't videotaped herself, she's had plenty of screentime. i think we should put her up now.--[[User:Skeeta|Skeeta]] 02:12, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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:: I definitely prefer it without the colorsToo many clashing colors is never good design. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 09:15, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
:::::: Maybe we've seen the last of AlexNow that she's been exposed, she may never Appear on Camera again. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 02:48, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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Did ya'll see the character box at the end of each character's page and the actor box at the end of each actors page? They both have Gemma/Jackie Jandrell as a minor character/actor in the story, with Bree, Daniel, and Jonas as the main characters and the actors who play them as major actors.  The main page should reflect the entire wiki.  I propose waiting to see if Alex becomes an official vlogger, then either taking the Gemma spot out entirely or switching her for Alex. It's become clear that Gemma is most likely dead and that even if she isn't, no new vids will come from Gemmers15.  Let's end this once and for all and keep the main page current! [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:06, 17 March 2007 (CDT)
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:::The colors are nice and I like how they match up with the colors id'ing the bloggers on the right side of the page. If you look at the new box along with the rest of the main page, it works.  [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 22:08, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
  
: I say we take Gemma out and replace her with the smaller picture option at [[Main Page/redesign]].  If Alex becomes more of a main character, we can add her. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 21:01, 17 March 2007 (CDT)
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:::I agree with Malan89 the whole way. Live? [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:22, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
:: I like the bigger option better, and I think that's a better pic of Daniel than what's on the main page now. But Gemma has to go, she hasn't been part of the story for nearly 4 months.[[User:Misty|Misty]] 13:03, 18 March 2007 (CDT)
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Since no one has made a comment supporting keeping Gemma on the page, I make motion that without objection within the next 24 hours, we declare that we have consensus in removing her. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 13:30, 18 March 2007 (CDT)
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::::  I really think it looks bad.  Those aren't even the same colors as the initials.  They don't match at all. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 16:27, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
  
:If everyone agrees that Gemma should be removed, then the table should be replaced with the small table proposed by JayHenry at [[Main Page/redesign]].  Please do not simply remove Gemma from the current table; use the new tableIf you're not sure how to do it, let someone else take care of it.  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 15:58, 18 March 2007 (CDT)
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:::::  Don't worry about it for now.  I think we may be adding a "Taylor" block soon.  [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 20:32, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
:: I take that to be a technical point, not an objection. I wasn't suggesting that we leave a hole in the table, I was saying that we have consensus that whatever format table we use, should not include Gemma. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 16:36, 18 March 2007 (CDT)
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::::::Please no colors, I'm seriousThe Main Page really doesn't need to be tricked outIt has a simple color scheme that works great, and it has some pictures and color accents (like in the Init template) to keep things just interesting enough. I'm actually not a fan of the colored boxes on the characters page either, but if you want to have a little fun with that, fine by me, just leave the main page as is, it looks much more polished and put together without the rainbow of fruity flavors.  Like Malan said, perhaps we should be more concerned with whether to add Taylor, Sarah, or Taylor&Sarah together to the Main block.  They've already done their first "official" blog on their own, on the left-hand column.  Quite the milestone for them.  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 21:27, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
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::::::: I'm ok with addeing them, but i think we should wait till it's certain they are going to last beyond this story arc, same thing for Jules. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:43, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
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:I agree. Everyone thought Alex was going to be a main character (and she still could be recurring) but we haven't seen her in ages.  Let's be patient with with Taylor, Sarah, and Jules --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 20:58, 23 May 2007 (CDT)
  
::: I suggest that we use the following box as it is the same width as the current box, with only a little increase in the height [[User:Misty|Misty]] 18:19, 18 March 2007 (CDT)
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==Navigation menu==
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Why do we need a link to this page on the navigation menu on the left? Again, it just forces down the search box with no improvement to the utility of LGPedia. There are already simple ways for getting back here so this link is just a total waste and very annoying because it leads to more scrolling than is desired.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 20:58, 8 April 2009 (CDT)
  
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== Breeniverse Timeline ==
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Now that the Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up and brought up to date, we should add it to the main page -[[User:Misty|misty]] 15:38, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
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:The Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up? Finally? I GOTTA GO CHECK THAT OUT! *hops away giddily* [[User:SilverBULLETx3|silverX3]] 16:56, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
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==Sarah and Taylor==
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Okay, now that Sarah and Taylor have both posted their own video blogs that have been posted on the main site, I think it's reasonable to add them to the main page.  I mean, if they ''don't'' end up lasting past this arc, we can always remove them.  They just seem significant enough at this point to merit a front-page character box.  Thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 22:37, 30 May 2007 (CDT)
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:I agree with putting them up.  The Creators are obviously doing a thorough job trying to fill out these characters with their personalities, their relationships, and their parental issues, so I think they'll be up for awhile.  I didn't expect Sarah to actually POST anything outside of a Myspace Blog so soon, but I stand corrected. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 11:37, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
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Okay, I went through and found some good images of Sarah and Taylor.  They will probably need to be cropped better to match up with the other characters, but I wanted to get some options up.  What do people think (I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3, personally)?
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|colspan=42 align=center style="font-family:Serif;background:#1E5DAA;color:#77C8E5;font-size:130%;"|'''''Main characters'''''
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Sarah-in-Car.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Quotes.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0184-SarahHoldingLipstick-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:Sarahimageforfc.jpg|100px]]
 
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| style="background:white"|[[Image:BreeChar.jpg|126px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah 1</span>]]'''
| style="background:white"|[[Image:DanChar.jpg|126px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah 2</span>]]'''
| style="background:white"|[[Image:JonasChar.jpg|126px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah 3</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah 4</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah 5</span>]]'''
 
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|align=center style="background:#1E5DAA"| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#1E5DAA| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#1E5DAA| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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|colspan=42 align=center style="background:white; color:black"|'''[[Characters|Full list of characters]]'''
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:TAY001-TaylorSmiling.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|<span style="color:white">Taylor 1</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|<span style="color:white">Taylor 2</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|<span style="color:white">Taylor 3</span>]]'''
 
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--[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 14:20, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
  
Looks good!  Let's do it.  But maybe you should change Main Characters to Current Bloggers.  Similar to what's on the redesignThis would work as we it would only include BDJ but would not say that characters like Alex and Gemma aren't main characters (b/c they are) but it would specify who is producing the vids (BDJ)? [[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 21:02, 18 March 2007 (CDT)
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I like Taylor 1 as well (very Secret Agent-y . . . don't ask).  But I'm stuck between Sarah 1,3, AND 51 just seems to have that Sarah-randomn-quality to it, 3 (besides the obvious) is from her first v-blog, and 5 matches up with her profile (currently). So I'm stuck on Sarah. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:35, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
  
:I think this table is much too large.  When put on the Main Page the pictures will really jump out at you.  A smaller table, like the one I pointed to in [[Main Page/redesign]] would be more appropriate. I'm adding the table I mentioned below this message. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 00:54, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3. Taylor 2 and Sarah 5 are also good. --[[User:XAccordianGuyx|XAccordianGuyx]] 19:51, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
  
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:I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3 as well. The other two Taylor photos are also good in that... well, that room is where you usually see her. But I stand T1 and S3. I'm glad we're adding them to the front page. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:33, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
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Okay, it seems like T1 and S3 are the consensus?  Can anyone crop them so that their heads are the same size as the other chars on the front page?  Oh and also...
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
| style="background:white"|[[Image:DanChar.jpg|95px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
| style="background:white"|[[Image:JonasChar.jpg|95px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|<span
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|<span style="color:white">Taylor</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah</span>]]'''
 
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|align=center style="background:#1E5DAA"| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#1E5DAA| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#1E5DAA| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|<span
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Well I think we should leave it as Main Characters initially. Then if there is a consensus to changing it to Bloggers, we can change it afterwardsOf course Vloggers would be more accurate than Bloggers [[User:Misty|Misty]] 01:07, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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OR um, yeahHow should we handle the alignment with five chars? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:47, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
  
:Misty, I think you jumped the gun here.  You proposed we wait 24 hours to hear others' opinions, and then you went and changed it 12 hours later.  That shows less of a desire to create something everyone is happy with, and more so the urge to get Gemma out of there because you say so. I'm not going to revert it because I don't think Gemma will be missed that much on the table, but I just wanted to ask you to have a little more patience.  It is, after all, just a wiki, not a time bomb.  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 10:38, 19 March 2007 (CDT) 
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::Here's a go at front-page quality images. They look bad full size, but I adjusted the face sizing and the saturation (only on Taylor's because it looked so bland between Jonas and Sarah).
:: Actually I jumped the gun accidently, I was playing around with the table in previews and I hit "save page" instead of "show preview". I thought about reverting it, but decided not to since we were going to make the change anyway. Today I made a very slight color change to it, to make it match the rest of the page a little better [[User:Misty|Misty]] 12:57, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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However, surely if we do go with Bloggers (which I think we should, with the divide between main and secondary charchters becoming much more ambiguous), surely Gemma should be there, she is a blogger in the series after all. Even if she no longer is blogging (vlogging, whatever) she deserves to be recognised for her part in the series. [[User:Coffeeaddict|Coffeeaddict]] 07:34, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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I bet now that Gemma has been taken off the mainpage that she will reappear in a video, just to mess it up again! [[User:SheriffOfNottingham|SheriffOfNottingham]] 13:44, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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::I guess that looks a little more consistent? Just trying to help. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 22:08, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
:Ditto! I wouldn't be surprised!  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 16:34, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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:I'm loving this group of five!  So . . . on the alignment,I would prefer upside-down pyramid, if it's not too hard (The codes above look nightmare-ish).  It just looks like a horizontal band of five characters would just be too long. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:43, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
  
==Color scheme==
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I feel like the Sarah pic needs to be SLIGHTLY zoomed in more to make her face size more consistant with the rest.  I hope thats not too big a problemOh, and maybe she should be ''desaturated''.. shes like.. noticably brighter than everyone else...  But basically, other than that, are we good to go?
For reference.  I got this from [[Talk:Main Page/redesign/archive of dicussion]][[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 16:39, 19 March 2007 (CDT)<br>
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|colspan=42 align=center style="background:white; color:black"|'''''Color scheme'''''
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
 
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| style="background:white"|'''Sample'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
| style="background:white"|'''HTML Color name'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|<span
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style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
| style="background:white"|background (0F4C95)
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
 
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|<span style="color:white">Taylor</span>]]'''
| style="background:white"|"A tribute to" (77C8E5)
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah</span>]]'''
 
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| style="background:white"|"15" (6FC6E3)
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Here's what I've got based on the current consesus.  Like I said, I think Sarah's head should overall be larger to match with the rest of the chars but yeah.  Oh, and I iike the saturation on Taylor.  Yay, I can't wait for this to go live :D --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:50, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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:Alright, I resized and recropped Sarah, desaturated and darkened her just the slightest bit (sorry, boys, had to crop the cleavage), so I think she fits in a bit more now. Also, I tweaked the previous code so that the border between Taylor and Sarah is only 1 pixel instead of two. I do like the pyramid... it kind of gives the feel of them being secondary main characters. Plus, it won't stretch things in lower resolutions. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 20:32, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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::I think it looks GREAT!!! If there are no objections shortly, I'll put it up on the main page.  Great work everyone!!  --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:36, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::: I strongly Object to the Pyramid layout. you put it up before anyone had time to object -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:14, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::It look fantabulous!  Great job Zoey, Chartreuse, and everyone who figured out the new character-pyramid! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:41, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::: I think it ould look better as a single line with smaller images.  the pyramid looks awfull -[[User:Misty|misty]] 23:09, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:white"|Circles of dots (204C9F)
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
 
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
| style="background:white"|Light blue details (2574C4)
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Taylor|<span style="color:white">Taylor</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah</span>]]'''
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::The only problem with this is that it's going to look awful on lower resolutions. It'll stretch things all out of whack. I think the most characters you can have side-by-side is going to be four. It really is a shame we don't have one more character to try and balance the pyramid out. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 01:02, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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I REALLY like the way it looks.  However, the two columns on the Main Page are now very uneven.  For this, I have a suggestion... how about we list the last 5 videos with thumbnails and descriptions, as opposed to 4?  It's more consistent with the 5 "previous videos," and it will make the page look much more balanced.  Y/N?  ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 23:30, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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:I was actually thinking the same, but I thought, 'Hmmm . . . better let someone else bring it up first' --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 23:55, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
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I do actually kind of like the smaller images lined up in one row, but I still worry about what it will do to the page with smaller resolutions.  Does anyone with a smaller resolution want to check this out maybe?  --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:23, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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: in 1024X768 it looks great with 90px images but we can also reduce down to 80px images too. none of the formatted pages look good at 800x600, but I don't think we need to worry about that, since almost no one has a 13 inch monitor anymore. -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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:: without objection I will change the page 12 hours from now.  -[[User:Misty|misty]] 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::Sounds great to me. No objections here. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 12:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::Sure, sounds fine. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:28, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::::Yeah . . . big pics in a pyramid, small pics in a line, whatever's clever --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 14:34, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Swap Taylor and Sarah ==
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I noticed that [[User:FH14|FH14]] just switched Taylor's and Sarah's boxes. I assume this is because Sarah is getting a bigger role now than Taylor? I reverted the change so it could be discussed and also because the borders didn't look quite right. If people want the pictures swapped, just offer your support here and we'll go ahead and do it. As a general rule, though, the Main Page shouldn't be changed without first getting consensus as it is the most viewed page on the 'pedia.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 16:58, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
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:I agree that Sarah's become a more important character (thank god!), so she should be first. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:47, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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::I also agree. It would make sense, seeing as it seems as though Taylor has faded out of the picture. --[[User:Brooklynxman|Bxman]] 18:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::Okay, I went ahead and changed it. Thanks for the input, Jbshryne and Brooklynxman!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:11, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::And you know, with the angle of Taylor's face in that pic, it works better as an end-piece. :-> ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 02:15, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::::I like it... and it also works alphabetically! [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:40, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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== Jonas' Picture ==
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[[Image:jonasdonttickle.JPG|thumb|left|200px|[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:56, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]
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[[Image:Jonasbyfireplace.jpg|thumb|right|200px|My only concern with this one is that it was previously edited by my friend. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:35, 7 June 2007 (CDT)]]
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Is it at all possible for Jonas' picture to be sharper? Otherwise, I think we should replace it. I do have another picture in mind. I remember the discussion of picture changes a month or so ago, but I think his picture needs to be either sharper or changed. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 20:16, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
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:I agree. I always thought the picture wasn't sharp enough. I would love to see the picture you had in mind.--[[User:jeans|jeans]]
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::I concur, and besides, that picture isn't doing justice to his looks. --[[User:Truncatedslinky|truncatedslinky]] 21:34, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::I like jonasdontticke.jpg (the left image)!!! If you need it cropped/adjusted, let me know. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 23:01, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::Yes, I love the one on the left as well! I think it would be great cropped. --[[user:jeans|jeans]]
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:::::Any mods like to put their input? [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 22:37, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::::The only mod I've seen around lately is Zoey.  As for me, the left one rocks. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:42, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::::Oh, foot in mouth, JonPro just commented above.  Anyway, yeah, I'd say at this point, we've got a consensus. ~ [[User:Jbshryne|Jbshryne]] 13:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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Oh, me! :P  I vote yes!  I really like the left picture :) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:20, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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:As do I. I just don't know how to change it on the main page. So can we go through with it?[[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:21, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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::Someone will need to crop it so that it matches the size/ratio formats of the current images, and then it can be added.  Once it's modified I can add it if ya want :P.  That's not a problem.  We just need to get it looking right! --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 21:24, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::I'd crop it... but I have no idea what the current size/ratio format is. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 21:25, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::I cropped it to the size, but perhaps not to the ratio.  If it's wrong, revert it. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 01:44, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::Yeah, his face was too big.  Grr.  I'll try again... in photoshop. ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 01:46, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::::Um... you know what?  Bad news.  There might not be enough "picture" around Jonas's face in that shot (even in the original video) to use that picture, because everybody else's faces are smaller in their pictures, in comparison to their "backgrounds."  :-( ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 01:54, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::::Yeah, I just tried to play with it... and you can get it to the same size and shape, but his face is way too close to the camera to bring it out and make him match the rest of them. I rewatched that same video to look for a place where there could have been a more usable screenshot, but to no avail. I'm going to go through some recent videos to look for a good screenshot. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 09:28, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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:::::::You know, how do we feel about a shot from [[The Morning After]]?  Just looking at the thumbnail that's on the page right now, it looks like the size/ratio would pretty much match up perfectly with the others.  The only problems I can see: (1) we would probably want to wait through a few more videos, so we don't have 2 shots from the same video on the Main Page, and (2) he's kind of half-naked (though that might be less of a problem for some than for others...) ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 17:35, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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[[Image:Jonas3.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Too bad his hair isn't up to par. :( --[[User:jeans|jeans]]]]I found another option for a picture. I looked through a lot of videos and not many of them have very good potential screenshots. This one was the best I could find at the moment. Any thoughts?--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
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:::::Ya know, I was totally thinking the same thing JB... but I didn't know if it would be okay with everyone with him with his shirt off. Granted, I'd love it, but my decision wasn't based on my "fan-girl"-ness. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 19:29, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
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::::::I too like the idea. :)--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
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It may be difficult to find a good picture of Jonas where the camera is sufficiently distant from his face. See below for 5 pictures of Jonas: the current pic, the current pic sharpened, and 3 new pics from the latest video. However, when you put one of the new pics alongside the other characters, you can see that Jonas's face is too close to the camera. So far, I vote to use the sharpened version of the current pic unless someone can upload some more alternatives (or point me to the relevant video and scene for more photo ideas). [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:white"|Faint dark blue flowers and circles (1B5FB7)
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''<span style="color:white">Jonas 1</span>'''
| style="background:white"|Bright blue unicursal hex (2450AE)
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''<span style="color:white">Jonas 2</span>'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''<span style="color:white">Jonas 3</span>'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''<span style="color:white">Jonas 4</span>'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''<span style="color:white">Jonas 5</span>'''
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|90px]]
| style="background:white"|Center circle of flower (1E6BBF)
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000; border-top-width: 1px;border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|90px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg|90px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|<span style="color:white">Taylor</span>]]'''
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| style="background:white"|Stars on the bar (909090)
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|<span style="color:white">Taylor</span>]]'''
 
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<center>[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)</center>
:I'm not sure why you changed those colors, the difference is almost imperceptible.  I like the change to the background of "Full List of Characters" since it now matches the background of the column.  However, I had to revert the changes to the background "Main Characters", "Bree", etc.  because I didn't see the need to change from an official color to an almost identical (but slightly off) unofficial color.  It's not your fault that you didn't know we had decided on a color scheme for the Main Page awhile back.  I'm going to dig up that table and put it here for future reference. The color you put in was #0f4c95.  The equivalent in our color scheme is #1E5DAA.  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 16:34, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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:: #0f4c95 is the color used it the top banner and the logo.  If #1E5DAA is the official color, the top banner and logo should use it too. Personally I think its better to have everything match at an unofficial color, than to have somethings the unofficial color and others the official color [[User:Misty|Misty]] 17:15, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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:::What gives you the impression that the banner is #0f4c95?  I just checked the source code and the top banner actually uses #194B95 as the background color, which is neither of the colors you and I were talking about.  I'm not sure why that discrepancy is there, but I didn't make the color scheme table, so I don't know how the colors were determined.  (I think Brucker made it--correct me if I'm wrong).  For now, I'm going to revert that last blue color you changed (in the Main Characters box), if anything to prevent yet another unofficial color from being in the mix.  #1E5DAA may not be correct, but it's used elsewhere on the main page and at least this way we'll keep it uniform and we'll know what to replace if we decide to revise the color scheme.  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 17:28, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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:::: I got #0f4c95 by examining the rightmost edge of Leftcorner.png. It didn't occur to me to check the code for the banner, I just assumed it would be the same.  But #194B95 and #0f4c95 are so close that you can't see the mismatch in the banner.  however if you set the banner background to #1E5DAA it really doesn't match the corner pngs, as you will see below. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 17:56, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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:::::I see what you mean now.  What I'll do is make #0f4c95 the "official" background color since that should be the best match (instead of what we have now, #1E5DAA), and fix the characters boxes.  Thanks for investigating; it's good that we'll be able to standardize this once and for all (I hope).  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 21:21, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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:::::: Getting everything Standardized will require doing a color audit of all theme related images and backrounds. Right now there's some major inconsistencies. I just checked Rightcorner.png and it was #004d98, the List of Lonelygirl15 videos/redesign page uses #134b9c, and the header image on the lonelygirl15 home page is #005fad [[User:Misty|Misty]] 02:38, 20 March 2007 (CDT)
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Haha, those three new ones actually kind of scare me.  I vote for the sharpened current one too. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 11:38, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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:Man... why does that pic from [[Bedside Manner]] have to be too big??  Yeah, I agree, the sharpened current is already a huge improvement.  The Creators had better give us a nice shot of him soon, from far enough away... ~ '''[[User:Jbshryne|JB<small>SHRYNE</small>]]''' 16:45, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
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:I agree, the sharpened version of the current picture is WAY cool.--[[user:jeans|jeans]]
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:: I also agree, but it is higher in contrast and saturation than the others, I think that it should be the benchmark and the others should be matched to it since all of them are a little too dull.  -[[User:Misty|misty]] 01:29, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
<span class="nounderlinelink" style="font-size:162%;color:#696969">[[LGPedia:Welcome|<font color=#909090>Welcome</font>]] to the '''[[LGPedia|<font color=#909090>LGPedia</font>]]''',</span><br />
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:I also enjoy seeing a clearer version of the current picture of Jonas. Keep the same shot, just pick the clearer one! --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 01:48, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
<span style="font-size:95%"><font color=white>Your guide to the world of</font> '''[[Lonelygirl15 (production)|<font color=#A0A0A0>Lonelygirl15</font>]]''' <font color=white>that</font> '''[[Help:Editing|<font color=#A0A0A0>anyone can edit</font>]]'''.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size:90%;color:#909090">''Now working on [[Special:Statistics|<font color=white>{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}</font>]] articles''</span><br />
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<font color=white>'''Warning:''' This wiki contains spoilers for the entire series.</font>
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::No, the main page banner really has to use this color: #194B95. It might seem like the difference between this and other blues is imperceptible, but it's not.  Was anybody seeing a color mismatch in the header bar on the main page? --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 10:01, 20 March 2007 (CDT)
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::I love the sharper version. Great job whoever did it! [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 23:06, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
:::Ah, sorry about that, Jay.  My mistake.  I actually didn't see a mismatch with this ''or'' the previous color.  Maybe I'm just not very perceptive.  Anyway, please change it to the correct shade (#194B95) on the Main Page and the color scheme table below. I really don't know how the color scheme table came about, so I'd rather take your word for what's right. I think Misty's browser might have shown some color difference, judging by how she keeps testing the colors on the Main Page. Then again, she did say that the diff between #194B95 and the color she found (#0F4C95) was imperceptible, so I think it should be fine if you use the one you have. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 17:10, 20 March 2007 (CDT)
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:::OK, it looks like you all like the sharpened version so I'll go ahead and update the main page. Misty, I'll look at adjusting the sharpness of the other headshots too, but I'll post them here first. [[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 09:39, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
:::: #0F4C95= red:15,green:76,blue:149.  #194B95=red:14,green:75,blue:149 so you see the differnce is just 1/256 more red and green.  I used photoshop to determine the color of the images by sampling the edge pixel, I didn't base it on any of my browsers.  Like I said above: there's a big discrepancy between different images that needs to bee addressed before any color can be standardized for backgrounds. and the peoiple on the video list redesign don't seem to be reading this discussion here so the problem could get a little worse. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 21:34, 20 March 2007 (CDT)
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[[Image:0229-Jonas-cropped.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Tada!--[[User:jeans|jeans]] July 11]]{{Clr}}
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I'm going to just throw another headshot out there and see if anyone likes it better than the current one. It obviously would still need to be properly cropped and sized.--[[user:jeans|jeans]] July 11
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: I love this! I was actually thinking "he looks so nice" as I was watching this video today. --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 15:36, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
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:: =D Me too.--[[user:jeans|jeans]] 16:06, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
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::: Haha, this is the main reason I came to the discussion page tonight. I am all for this (of course, if it's possible). [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 00:59, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
  
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== Adding Spencer, changing sizes. ==
  
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Because it has been announced that Spencer will be with us as a series regular for at least the next two months, should we add him to the front page? If we do, we'll have to change the sizes of the character images because five on the top and one on the bottom would look kind of cluttered. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:10, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
  
=Website font=
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(EDIT: we could also make the sizes bigger to make it three on the top, three on the bottom) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:12, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
On the website banner and the little banner up in the corner, What font are they using for the Lonelygirl15 part? --[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]
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I've personally tried to identify it with little luck. Maybe I'll ask a friend of mine who's a graphic designer...<span style="color:Blue">'''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])'''''</span> 12:43, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
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:I had been playing with that earlier today, actually! [[User:Chartreuse/Sandbox | My Sandbox]] --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:15, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
  
:I just talked to my friend, and the while we could not identify the font, we decided a couple things: (1) It looks a lot like [http://www.linotype.com/12802/serifa75black-font.html Serifa Black], although that doesn't seem to be it. (2) It looks like the 'g' is from another typeface entirely, since it doesn't really match the rest of the letters very well in a number of ways. This type of font is generally referred to as a "slab serif" style font, but I can't find a font of that type with the sort fo curl shown on the top of the 'r' and the bottom of the 'y'. I may do more research.<span style="color:Blue">'''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])'''''</span> 16:24, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
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::Oh, I see! I'm glad you're working with it! Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 18:20, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
  
::"[http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/ortizlopez/olegiziano-classic/black/index.html OL Egiziano Classic Black]" is a very close match, and may in fact be the font. I think it is something in the Egiziano font family at least. (BTW, as I suspected, it seems that "Egiziano" is Italian for "Egyptian". <span style="color:Blue">'''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])'''''</span> 10:59, 14 March 2007 (CDT)
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:::Any feedback would be lovely. This is what I have at this point:
:::[http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/fontbureau/giza/threefive/ Giza ThreeFive] is even closer, it even has the overhanging serif on the lowercase g (i.e. the lowercase g in Giza actually touches the i if you write "Lonelygirl15", as in the logo, while g and i are seperate in OLEgiziano).
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:::Just for reference, dunno if this is still current.
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::::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 12:53, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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=Add to Main Page???=
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[[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 15:06, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
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|colspan=42 align=center style="font-family:Serif;background:#1E5DAA;color:#77C8E5;font-size:130%;"|'''''Tachyon and Brother'''''
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
 
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 0px solid #000000;border-top-width: 0 px;border-bottom-width: 1px;"| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
 
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Jonas|<span
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style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-width: 0px; padding: 0px;"|[[Image:0222-SpencerLaughing-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px;"| '''[[Taylor|<span style="color:white">Taylor</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-right-width: 0; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Sarah|<span style="color:white">Sarah</span>]]'''
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|align=center style="background:#194B95; border: 1px solid #000000; border-top-width: 0px;"| '''[[Spencer|<span style="color:white">Spencer</span>]]'''
 
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|align=center style="background:#1E5DAA"| '''[[Tachyon|<span style="color:white">Tachyon</span>]]'''
 
|align=center style=background:#1E5DAA| '''[[Brother|<span style="color:white">Brother</span>]]'''
 
 
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Needs some work, but maybe something like that on the [[AphidPedia]] if it's not already there. <span style="color:Blue">'''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])'''''</span> 16:05, 13 March 2007 (CDT)
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::: i like that. 5 across was looking a little long to me, actually --[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 07:54, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
  
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I think it's a fine idea, and it looks good, but I propose we wait to make any changes until we make the whole Portal pages live, just so we don't overcomplicate things.  *nods* --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:40, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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: Oh, that's what I had figured on, which is why it was just on my sandbox page for now. I just had Photoshop open at the same time as Spencer's latest, so I was like... HMMM... *nods back* --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:46, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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::Okay awesome :)  Ooh, hey, if you've still got PS open, someone needs to crop the images on [[User:Zoey/sandbox]] to make them fit in the boxes properly.  It might involve cropping.. or adding like.. a white background or something.. I dont know, whatever to make it look good.  But yeah, just a though, especially if you have PS opened already :)  Thanks.  --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 18:50, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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:: O.O! I refuse to admit to the fact that I had already been messing with them. Scary! --[[User:Chartreuse|Chartreuse]] 18:55, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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:::<nowiki>*</nowiki>raises hand* I volunteer to crop *runs to PhotoPlus* MEEP Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 19:27, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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:::And heeeerrrreee we go!
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:::[[Image:LG15PortalImageCropped.jpg]]
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:::[[Image:KateModernPortalImageCropped.jpg]]
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:::I'll go ahead and put them in your sandbox now, Zoey. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 19:47, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
  
==Edits==
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The LG one looks good, but does the KM one look slightly fuzzy to anyone else?  Is that fixable? Gah, I hope we get the "new" cast photos Miles promised soon, I don't like how these two are so vastly different in sizes with the people (the Kate cast is so BIG compared to the LG cast! Haha).  Other than that though, I think it's good.  Anyone else have any thoughts? --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 20:25, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
  
I just edited the daniel & jonas page to list the last appearance, i see on the recent changes list that people can like..put a little description of what they changed, i would like to know how to do that as well
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:With the KM one, it was already fuzzy. That is the sharpened version, but I'll sharpen it a bit more. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 20:26, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
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::OK, hows this:
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::[[Image:KateModernPortalImageSharpened.jpg]]
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::It's increased a little bit. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 20:32, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
  
--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 00:20, 15 March 2007 (CDT)
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::(Ooops, wrong size (and I airbrushed a little bit.) Here:
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::[[Image:KateModernPortalImageAirbrushed.jpg]]
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::Hows that?) Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 20:37, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
  
There should be a comment box below the edit box. It says "Summary:" next to it. <span style="color:Blue">'''''-BRUCKER [[Image:EyeBlueSmall.jpg]] ([[User:Brucker|Home]]/[[User talk:Brucker|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Brucker|Contribs]])'''''</span> 01:14, 15 March 2007 (CDT)
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::: Those look nice. Only thing I recommend (if possible) is sharpening around Gavin's head and Kate's head. Otherwise it's a vast improvement. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 00:58, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
  
==Cleanup==
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::::Ok, I went a little airbrush crazy on this one, but deal with it. The shadows were bugging me.
This page needs to be trimmed down. Anybody mind if I erase some of the old discussions? [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 16:39, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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::::[[Image:KateModernPortalImagePhotoshopped.jpg]]
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::::Soooo...? Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 01:46, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
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::::On second thought, I don't like it. What is everyone else's opinion? Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 01:58, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
  
:We could just archive them like at the top of the page -- move inactive discussions to [[Talk:Main Page/Archive up to March 2007]]. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 23:46, 19 March 2007 (CDT)
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== Adding on to the navigation ==
  
== Require login to edit LGPedia ==
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Whoever has access to edit the navigation bar on the side will soon need to add the KM and LG portals on. This will be more convenient for editors and users to navigate between the shows. Just bringing this to attention. Love, [[User:-R-|-R-]] 22:01, 14 July 2007 (CDT)
  
I think that people should be required to reqister and login to LGpedia in order to make edits.  Almost all the valndalism, and alot of bad edits, are by people wo are logged only bt there IP adress. People are less likely to register, just to vandelize the site. And anyone who seriously wants to contribute wouldn't be put off by the registration/login process._ [[User:Misty|Misty]] 15:08, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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:: I think that the Portal links should be at the top. So it would go Portal, Videos, Forums, List of Videos. I think it makes more sense considering we're at the 'pedia, so the Portal should be first. [[User:Chelseyrl|Chelseyrl]] 13:51, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
  
:Hmm, I see what you mean, but I think that requiring a login would discourage some people from editing. As it is, we need as much help as we can get. The vandalism is minimal right now, and this can also be helped by semi-protecting frequently vandalized pages, which has been done for some pages. I know when I first started editing, I did it with my IP address. I might not have gotten into it as much if I had had to create an account right off the bat.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 15:24, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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::: Yeah, I agree with Chelsey. I'd fix it but I gave up my sysop rights! :*(  Anybody who has sysop access can change the sidebar here: [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]].--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 16:40, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
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::Done! (I was wondering about that too . . .) :) --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 16:48, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
  
::Agreed with Jonpro. It's against the spirit of a wiki to block anonymous editors. And I'm of the opinion that they do more good than harm. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 15:27, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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== This is Probably Just Stupid But... ==
  
:::I wholeheardtedly agree with Jay here. The positive contributions made my anonymous IP addresses is by far outweighing any scattered vandalism that comes as a by-product. For instance, as of late I've noticed many of the video pages have transcripts that were worked on by several anonymous users. I like it better when they login because that way I remember them and get to know them, but it's really their choice. Registered users, on the other hand, have also caused their fair share of vandalism, spamming and trolling in the past. We just do the best we can keeping things in order and blocking those who can't play nice. [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 16:56, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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...The main page, i like it but for some reason i don't think it looks wiki like. It is cool but needs to look more like a wiki. But my opinion is just an opinion.
::::I think that the positive contributions made with anonymous IP addresses, could be from registerd users, who either forgot or just didn't bother to login. several of my posts are under my IP address, for that reason, and i had to go back and reedit them to get my identity attached to them. Plus I don't think having to login would be much of a deterrent, on the forums, everyone needs to be logged in to post, and i'm sure most the poeple who edit here post ofn the forum too. [[User:Misty|Misty]] 17:20, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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:Well, in my opinion, you're wrong :P
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:Seriously, though, pick any other skin, [http://www.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=58212&useskin=cologneblue and the old main page looks different as well]. Just because wikipedia has a certain design doesn't make that the ultimate "wiki" design. There are dozens of skins for the MediaWiki software alone, and dozens of other wiki softwares as well. Look at [[MemoryAlpha:Main Page]] - they're using the same software both Wikipedia and LGPedia use - yet they look totally different.
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:We acknowledge your wish to have the main page look more like a generic wikipedia clone, but I, personally, do not support it :P
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::~ [[User:Renegade|Renegade]] ([[User talk:Renegade|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Renegade|contribs]]) 09:14, 22 July 2007 (CDT)
  
Another reason I think we need everyone to log in: if you ban someone a dynamic IP address, then they can just come right back the next time, when their DHCP server gives them a different IP address. Today they same person had to be banned twice Because he came here with 2 different IP addresses. -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 21:42, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
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== Why is there something on the main page nere the bottom for... ==
  
:And yet it is still the case that the vandalism here is very minimal. And even if we required a login, a vandal could easily create multiple accounts to vandalize. The fact that it's easy for people to create an account only shows that it would be just as easy to vandalize with an username as with an IP address. Also, there really isn't a substantial difference between an editor using an IP address and one using a username. A username simply helps to give the person an "identity" so to speak--it's easier for other editors to identify them and they can feel more a part of the community. But I still respect all of the anonymous editors very much. After all, the point of a wiki is so that ''everyone'' can contribute.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 22:37, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
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lonelygirl15, it has the creators, and the "universe". if there was that shouldn't katemodern have one or should the lonelygirl15 one be taken off--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 15:22, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
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:The 'Universe' encompases both the stories of Kate & Bree, Houdini. They simply call it the '''LG15 Universe''', becuase, well, LG15 came first. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 15:39, 27 July 2007 (CDT)
  
::We are not going to require login to edit.  It just goes against the very core of wikitude.  I don't like vandalism either, but it happens with or without usernames.  I think what Jonpro said above sums it up pretty well.  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 23:10, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
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== New Featured Article ==
  
==Blogger Pics==
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should there be a new featured article?--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 02:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
  
Does anyone think that its time we change Jonas & Bree's blog pics on the main page? Daniel's was changed fairly recently but i don't believe that Bree's or Jonas's has been in a while.
 
---[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]
 
  
:I'm up for a change. Any suggestions for new pictures?--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 15:24, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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I believe so, It has been up there for a while.  
  
::I'd just vote for more recent pictures.  I think it's safe to say that Bree is never going back to that bedroom. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 15:27, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 20:19, 6 August 2007 (CDT)
  
Well i can post a few pictures that i think would be the best for the main page of bree. but i have to upload them first.
 
--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]
 
  
:Hey Michiev,
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== Lonelygirl15 Portal image ==  
:You don't necessarily have to upload any pictures.  You can go through [[:Category:Images of Bree]], [[:Category:Images of Daniel|Images of Daniel]], and [[:Category:Images of Jonas|Images of Jonas]] to get some ideas from the pictures we already have.  Just thought I'd mention it in case you wanted to look through them. 
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:[[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 16:17, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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::My visual thoughts...
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|colspan=42 align=center style="font-family:Serif;background:#0F4C95;color:#77C8E5;font-size:130%;"|'''''Main characters'''''
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| style="background:white"|[[Image:0118-BreeAndRandomGirlPosing-Cropped.jpg|95px]]
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| style="background:white"|[[Image:0146-JonasAtHisAunt'sHouse-Cropped.jpg|95px]]
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree Opt. 1</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree Opt. 2</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas Opt. 1</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas Opt. 2</span>]]'''
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|colspan=42 align=center style="background:#f5faff; color:black"|'''New options for Bree and Jonas'''
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|}[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 17:04, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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Eventually do you think that the portal image for lonelygirl should be changed to reflect the fact that bree is no longer?
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| style="background:white"|[[Image:0155-DanielAtTheParty.jpg|125px]]
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Daniel|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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|colspan=42 align=center style="background:#f5faff; color:black"|'''Same height but wide-screen versions (I think Bree looks better in the centre, between the 2 boys - aesthetically, rather than alphabetically, ordered)'''
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|}[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 17:04, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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I like the pics you selelcted psmith andi like the wide-screen versions but i still think bree should be first.  -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 17:25, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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:Yeah, I like the pictures too. I have to say that I prefer the current size rather than the widescreen. I'm not sure why, they just look better to me. As far as Bree being in the middle, I like that idea. Even though she is (kind of) the main character, I don't see a reason why she would have to be first. In fact, being in the middle might emphasize her even more. And sorry Misty if I seem to be contradicting you recently--it's nothing personal of course.--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 17:33, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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Im not saying anyone has to, im just throwing an idea out in the air.
::One more table...
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{| align=center style="width:300px" border=2 border-color=#2574C4
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|-
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|colspan=42 align=center style="font-family:Serif;background:#0F4C95;color:#77C8E5;font-size:130%;"|'''''Main characters'''''
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|-
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| style="background:white"|[[Image:0118-BreeAndRandomGirlPosing-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:white"|[[Image:0160-DanielLaughing-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:white"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|-
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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|-
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|colspan=42 align=center style="background:#f5faff; color:black"|'''This also includes a new Daniel pic - width increased from 95 to 100 pixels - traditional 4:3 ratio and BDJ order'''
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|}[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 19:20, 5 April 2007 (CDT)
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</center>
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== beta.lonelygirl15.com ==
  
I like the last one the most. :)  --[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]
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So I see that www.lg15.com/lgpedia has been moved to beta.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia. If anyone could fix any broken links on {{wikipedia|lonelygirl15|Wikipedia}}, that'd be great! I'll get to work on it, but I see some of the links are still at lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia, which as we know, is broken. Bye guys! <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 20:18, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
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:I'm sorry, but I don't even see what youre talking about? LGPedia links show up for me at lg15.com/lgpedia --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:38, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
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::For a short while, Zoey, the LGPedia was relocated beta.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia. It seems that it has been moved back to lg15.com/lgpedia, though.
  
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== Missions and Relationships ==
  
:Yeah, I like this last one too...I don't really like the idea of Bree being in the middle...  
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Should i move missions and relationships to the main page.--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 17:43, 13 August 2007 (CDT)
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:I'd say that it's a good idea to move Missions and Relationships to the Main Page. :) Go for it, Houdini! <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 01:55, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
  
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::Well I'm not sure about Missions, but I think Relationships should be seperate for each series, as the page is already long enough as it is. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 02:03, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
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:Hmmm, Missions could work for the Main page, as it currently has both series in that article.  I do agree with Zoey however, that Relationships would be fine with their respective Portal. --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 02:18, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
  
I gave more thought to this and one thing that I noticed bothered me about the tables above, is that the focal distance of the shots is different on each pic.  With the pictures currently on the main page, they all have approximately the same focal distance, and relative head size.  That gives the Table a sence of balance and symetry. 
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== How about? ==
I think we should try to achieve that, in the new pictures as well.  -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 00:36, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
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:I agree with Misty.  I think it looks better to have them more or less in proportion with each other.  We have ''a lot'' of material to work with, so we should be able to find good shots with almost any specs. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] 11:33, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
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How about each month we change it to a charector theme? But I dont think thats a very good idea.
  
<center>
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== New Series Portal Images ==
{| align=center style="width:300px" border=2 border-color=#2574C4
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|-
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|colspan=42 align=center style="font-family:Serif;background:#0F4C95;color:#77C8E5;font-size:130%;"|'''''Main characters'''''
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|-
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| style="background:white"|[[Image:0118-BreeAndRandomGirlPosing-CloseUp.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:white"|[[Image:0160-DanielLaughing-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:white"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-CloseUp.jpg|100px]]
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|-
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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|-
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|colspan=42 align=center style="background:#f5faff; color:black"|'''Balanced head shots (Bree and Jonas zoomed up to match the Daniel pic)'''
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|}[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 20:11, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
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</center>
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Can you go the other way, and make them all like zoomed out more,to match Bree in the table above it? -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 20:31, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
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::I like the work done on the new characters table.  I've noticed nobody has commented on which picture of Bree to use.  I strongly prefer the one of Bree from Snow Angels (Op1) rather than the one from Truth Or Dare (Op2).  I just think the visor in Op2 casts too much of a shadow over her face, you really can't see her that well.  As for Jonas, while I do like the picture, I think it needs to be recropped.  Right now he looks like he doesn't have a neck... it's just not too flattering.  Other than that, thumbs up!  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 23:37, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
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Well, with all of the new logos... well now so new anymore... I believe it is past due for a little change. I made a portal image for LG15 first:
{| align=center style="width:300px" border=2 border-color=#2574C4
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[[Image:LG15 Portal Splash Image.png]]<br>
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I want to get feedback before I make the KateModern image, because that will take a little more work and I don't want to waist my time. Feel free to comment, I personally don't like the way it ways "portal," and need help on what it should look like. {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Sept. 09, '07 - 8:26 PM}}
|colspan=42 align=center style="font-family:Serif;background:#0F4C95;color:#77C8E5;font-size:130%;"|'''''Main characters'''''
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::You couldn't copy my response too, Randy?? :P  (Anyways, I think it looks good, and I would suggest having the "Portal" go diagonal-like like the rest of the logo, if possible. -- 18:29, 9 September 2007 (CDT)) [[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 21:23, 11 September 2007 (CDT)
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:::Caaaan do! (oh and anyone who has better photo-shopping skills than a 13 year old, feel free to jump in. I built that logo from scratch and thats why it doesn't look like the actual logo.) {{User:-R-/SignatureD|Aug 12, '07 - 8:23 PM}}
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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| style="background:white"|[[Image:0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG|100px]]
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== One Year of LGPedia ==
| style="background:white"|[[Image:0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg|100px]]
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|-
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Did anyone mention before that the LGPedia recently had its one year anniversary?  Kudos to all who have contributed, especially our dear admins.
|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Bree|<span style="color:white">Bree</span>]]'''
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|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Daniel</span>]]'''
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The first edit of the main page came on Sept. 29, 2006, and it read:  
|align=center style=background:#0F4C95| '''[[Jonas|<span style="color:white">Jonas</span>]]'''
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"Woo hoo! LG15 rocks! Cassieiswatching."
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Sept 29, 2006: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=1405
|colspan=42 align=center style="background:#f5faff; color:black"|'''Head+neck+shoulders this time. Option 1 for Bree. Couldn't zoom out the other Daniel pic, but here is another one of him laughing.'''
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|-
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Sept 29 later that day, the 1st real main page, by TheNunOwnedGoat: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=1437
|}[[User:Psmith|Psmith]] 13:24, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
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Oct 1, already full of links!: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=2127
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Nov 9:  warning about yousef firing on main page: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=5935
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Jan 4, 2007:  Nicer new header debuts:  http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=16791
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Jan 24:  LGPedia reaches 1 million views.  http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=19692
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March 28: LGPedia reaches 2 millions views.  http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=31776
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May 29:  LGPedia reaches 3 million page views: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=49143
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June 16:  It is noted that LGPedia has exceeded 1,000 articles.  http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=52726
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July 15: New main page, split between LG15 and KM, debuts: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=58492
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--[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] 14:00, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
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:That's awesome, Milowent. Brings back good times. Man, I remember that [[Firing of Yousef]] fiasco and then the [[Glenn Rubenstein]] thing which we were afraid was going to blow up just as big. Somehow the effects really didn't get seen here as much as the forums I don't think. But I just want to say thanks as well to everyone who has contributed. Even though I'm not helping out here as much, I'm always checking out the video pages and reading the notes to catch up on all the stuff that's happening in the LG15 world. Looking forward to another great year!--[[User:Jonpro|Jonpro]] 14:32, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
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:I remember first visiting the site around this time last year (wasn't even registered then).  Man, times have changed, have they? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 05:18, 8 December 2007 (CST)
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== Featured Content ==
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Since the "Featured Article" hasn't really been working out for some time, I decided to go a new approach. To me, it makes way more sense to have "Featured Content" that rotates fairly regularly. Instead of having to perfect an article and wait while people debate over it and blahblah, with featured content, you should still nominate it, but it won't have to be perfect. It will be much less intense... it can be a new feature we've added to the Pedia, breaking plot news, an article that's just undergone a major revision, even a funny tidbit burried in one of our pages. Hopefully, by featuring "content" instead of just an "article" we'll be able to keep people much better informed of all the great things the wiki has to offer.
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Let me know what you think! (PS Sorry this sounds like a sales pitch, I'm just so excited lol. And now... as it's 5:30 am (which actually means I may have forgotten something I meant to say here... sorry if I did...), I am off to bed :)) --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 04:35, 29 November 2007 (CST)
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:I concur.  Make it more like Wikipedia.  Although, we should probably create a template to nominate a page to feature, like they have there, as well.  (And of course a similar page to discuss nominations.) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 12:59, 29 November 2007 (CST)
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::I love this idea! '''Strong support.'''
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:::<span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Silver•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]] <small>[[User talk:SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/SilverBULLETx3|<font color="white">Contribs</font>]]</small></span> 17:22, 6 December 2007 (CST)
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:There appears to be no dissenters (no one's responded in a week).  If we do decide to go along with this new approach, what should we feature first?? --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 18:29, 16 December 2007 (CST)
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::Hm, we could feature [[Jan Libby]] now, since I just revamped it a fair bit and she was shouted out in [[Free Love|Sarah's latest videos]]? Trying to think what else... --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 15:43, 17 December 2007 (CST)
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== New portal images? ==
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I was just wondering, since KM season 1 has ended, and LG season 2 is coming to a close. should there be a new Portal image? --[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]
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:Maybe, but the problem then becomes ''what'' images would we use? Those two are the best we've got right now. I do think we might want to put the actual logos on them, but that's another matter. - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 10:11, 25 January 2008 (CST)
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:I just saw the two new Portal images! I love them! Thank you ,Zoey - Irene([[User:AzukiLotus|AzukiLotus]]) 20:27,14 February 2008 (HKT)
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:Should Kate be in the KateModern portal image? Just a thought...[[User:Babygurl1853|Babygurl1853]]
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== The Last Work ==
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Can someone change the announcement from prom to the last work [the finale of KateModern.]--[[User:Houdini|Houdini]] 14:36, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
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== The End==
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Since this show has ended as well, are we going to do it up like we did with KM after the finale?
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i was also wondering whats going to happen to the main portal images, are those going to the side panel when the new shows premiere?
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== the resistance/The Resistance ==
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Do we have any official word on the capitalization of the new series? I know it seems trivial, but I notice things like this. The ''trailer'' was posted unitalicized, but the new board on the forum was capitalized. Just wondering if we know for sure yet. --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 23:28, 3 August 2008 (CDT)
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:The group Amanda created on Facebook is lowercase, but aside from that, I haven't seen anything official either way. --[[User:Zoey|Zoey]] 23:32, 3 August 2008 (CDT)
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::Ah, okay. Thanks, Zoey! --[[User:TheNunOwnedGoat|Andy]] 23:46, 3 August 2008 (CDT)
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==The Resistance portal image?==
  
:Perfect!  Love the picture of Daniel in the big Mexican hat!  He's smiling so big!  [[User:OwenIsCool|OwenIsCool]] 14:33, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
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i was wondering if anyone would like me to make several portal-maybes that we could use as the "click here" image for the main page like all the other shows have.
:: I agree, lets go live with it tonight, if we don't have any objections -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 15:31, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
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::I have got to say that those pics are great (especially Daniel's LOL)  Though I must say I will kinda miss that classic "Jonas smile." -- [[User:Phoenician|Phoenician]]
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-[[User:Michiev|Michiev]] 23:27, 13 September 2008 (CDT)
  
== Alex to migrate to main page? ==
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How about these? A couple of portal images i put together, thoughts? --[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 08:34, 17 September 2008 (CDT)
  
I know this has already been debated, but I think that Alex should be moved to the Main Page very soon.
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[[Image:LG15_Resistance_Portal1.jpg]]
Some people have said she shouldn't because she's not a blogger like Bree, Daniel, Gemma and Jonas; I still consider her a main character. No one ever really said that all main characters have to be bloggers...
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[[Image:LG15_Resistance_Portal2.jpg]]
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[[Image:LG15_Resistance_Portal3.jpg]]
  
No i don't believe that she should, Because the main characters on the main page, are in all or most of the videos and shes not in that many, I think that it would just be safe to keep her in the supporting characters section, unless she becomes a character that should be put on the main page.  
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:I'm going to say no to those, only because the main page is going to be redesigned inside of two weeks. The design Zoey and I were toying around with eliminates the need for those entry images. That, and if we added one in right now, it would look mega weird, since The Resistance doesn't have the polygon shape to it, unlike the other boxes. I should have said this earlier, but I had completely forgotten about it. (I like the last one the best, though. ;) ) - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 04:00, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
  
But thats my personal opinion.
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::I'd say that is a better idea then Shiori, at least then the pictures won't need updating every season. --[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 04:46, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
  
--[[User:Michiev|Michiev]]
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==Thin?==
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I was wondering what is up with the new Pedia... the background looks great, but on the whole, it looks very... thin in my browser. It seems like it used to fill more space, but now seems to have a lot of dead air out to the sides. Just wondering... --[[User:Greenie|Greenie]] 14:30, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
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:Your're right. I like it except for the thinness, as it seems to have destroyed many of the layouts. --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 15:46, 16 September 2008 (EST)
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::I think it may have been altered for it's integration with the new site. If you look how the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki MediaWiki] software that the pedia uses it looks like the pedia is a lot more compact. Perhaps asking in the forums or making a suggestion that it be put back so that it doesn't mess with layouts. --[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 16:05, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
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::I made a [http://www.lg15.com/bbsposts/list/2/35/78/1 thread] in the new forum and Broken Kid wants to know what pages don't display properly. --[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 16:44, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
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:::Of the pages I've seen so far. the main pages for LG and KM are off from what I can tell. Also, the headers for pages such as behind the scenes, soundtracks, cast & crew, the video lists . . . most banners are overlapping on themselves due to be "squished." --[[User:Phoenician|Pheon]] 17:43, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
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::::If need be, after we've got the redesign of The Resistance Portal and the main page in place, I can go over everything and do a brand new redesign from the ground up. The KM and lg15 stuff should be easy, though. I can just do a minor rewrite to get those working - I'm mainly referring to redesigning the header template. I hated how it looked for the longest time, and now we actually have a reason to get rid of it. :P - [[User:Shiori|Shiori]] 03:27, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
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:::::Are their any technical solutions that would allow for the Eqal navigation bar but would also allow for a variable page width as suggested by KindredPhantom. What would be the pro/con of variable width vs fixed width in terms of the general design of LGPedia pages? Would it be worth while to set a minimum width to lock in design features but allow for variable width wider than that for those who prefer to use a wider browser window? Food for thought.--[[User:Modelmotion|modelmotion]] 05:14, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
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::::::Is no one else affected by the fixed width of LGPedia? I doubt that everyone who visits it and work on it views it on a 1024x768 monitor, it cannot be just me that it annoys that feels that it should be returned to how it originally was?
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::::::It would be nice if others joined in the [http://www.lg15.com/bbsposts/list/2/35/78/1 discussion]we are having about it, if more people add their opinion to it and ask for it to be changed back then it doesn’t look like something only a couple of people care about. It’s much better in numbers, a unified voice.--[[User:KindredPhantom|KindredPhantom]] 07:38, 23 September 2008 (CDT)
  
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== Main Page redesign(?) ==
  
Well, I say we should give it another two or three weeks, ''then'' decide.
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The fact that there are two blank logos next to the N1ckola one is bothering the crap out of me, and I've been trying to fix it with no such luck. So, I was thinking, for the time being, while there are only four EQAL-produced LG15 Franchise shows, we could use the images that mm uploaded and has over at [[User:Modelmotion/main]]. Of course, not that exact layout, but something with those images, that wouldn't look bad if we had four in a row. Just because it's bugging the crap out of me. Then, once we get our promised Italy and Japan shows, we could revert back to these logos since we'd have six EQAL LG15 shows. What do you think? <span style="background:DarkSlateGray">[[User:Kevin|<font color="white">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''•Kevin•'''&nbsp;&nbsp;</font>]]</span> 15:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
--[[User:XAccordianGuyx|XAccordianGuyx]]
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:Could you do a mock-up of what it would look like? --[[User:FH14|FH14]] 13:16, 29 July 2009 (EST)
: In my opinion we should change the title from "Main Charcters" to "Bloggers" to try and avoid this confussion, because you can argue forever as to what constitutes a main character, as seen above in the "Gemma" section, with people thinking Bree's Parents should be in there. I think we should go down the route of simplicity and have it as bloggers, since these are the charcters we are connected to, since we see it through there point of view. Just my opinion. [[User:Coffeeaddict|Coffeeaddict]] 18:22, 6 April 2007 (CDT)
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:: in my opinion, there are no "bloggers" anymore. the "Blogs" have just become plot points, which are posted as episodes of the lonelygirl15 series, under the lonelygirl15 productions' account on revver and youtube-[[User:Misty|Misty]] 18:34, 6 April 2007 (CDT)
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:::It's true that they are not blogs in the traditional sense (hehe, it's funny using the word traditional about blogs, anyway back to my point) but I cannot think of a better word. Thinking about it "Episodes of the lonelygirl15 series" is all they ever have been, done in blog form or not. Anyway I think that Alex should not be there, and the title should be changed to Bloggers, since the Teen Angst Adventure Gang are still the only individuals who post videos (the order and all it's factions discounted) and they are the people who give us the plot, Aunt Alex is part of the plot but BDJ ''are'' the plot. Anyway just my opinions, apologies for the long and ramblingness of them. [[User:Coffeeaddict|Coffeeaddict]] 18:58, 6 April 2007 (CDT)
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::::I think that if Alex is the topic of another post or two, then she should be added to the list of main characters.--[[User:Malan89|Malan89]] 11:03, 8 April 2007 (CDT)
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:::::Lets see if Alex goes with them, when they leave mexico, if she does, then I agree, put her on the front page -[[User:Misty|Misty]] 15:34, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
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How about with colors?

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Bree Daniel Jonas
Hurrah for colors! I love this so much. silverX3 08:46, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
I definitely prefer it without the colors. Too many clashing colors is never good design. --JayHenry 09:15, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
The colors are nice and I like how they match up with the colors id'ing the bloggers on the right side of the page. If you look at the new box along with the rest of the main page, it works. Malan89 22:08, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
I agree with Malan89 the whole way. Live? silverX3 16:22, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
I really think it looks bad. Those aren't even the same colors as the initials. They don't match at all. --JayHenry 16:27, 15 May 2007 (CDT)
Don't worry about it for now. I think we may be adding a "Taylor" block soon. Malan89 20:32, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
Please no colors, I'm serious. The Main Page really doesn't need to be tricked out. It has a simple color scheme that works great, and it has some pictures and color accents (like in the Init template) to keep things just interesting enough. I'm actually not a fan of the colored boxes on the characters page either, but if you want to have a little fun with that, fine by me, just leave the main page as is, it looks much more polished and put together without the rainbow of fruity flavors. Like Malan said, perhaps we should be more concerned with whether to add Taylor, Sarah, or Taylor&Sarah together to the Main block. They've already done their first "official" blog on their own, on the left-hand column. Quite the milestone for them. OwenIsCool 21:27, 17 May 2007 (CDT)
I'm ok with addeing them, but i think we should wait till it's certain they are going to last beyond this story arc, same thing for Jules. -misty 15:43, 18 May 2007 (CDT)
I agree. Everyone thought Alex was going to be a main character (and she still could be recurring) but we haven't seen her in ages. Let's be patient with with Taylor, Sarah, and Jules --Pheon 20:58, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

Navigation menu

Why do we need a link to this page on the navigation menu on the left? Again, it just forces down the search box with no improvement to the utility of LGPedia. There are already simple ways for getting back here so this link is just a total waste and very annoying because it leads to more scrolling than is desired.--modelmotion 20:58, 8 April 2009 (CDT)

Breeniverse Timeline

Now that the Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up and brought up to date, we should add it to the main page -misty 15:38, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

The Breeniverse Timeline has been cleaned up? Finally? I GOTTA GO CHECK THAT OUT! *hops away giddily* silverX3 16:56, 18 May 2007 (CDT)

Sarah and Taylor

Okay, now that Sarah and Taylor have both posted their own video blogs that have been posted on the main site, I think it's reasonable to add them to the main page. I mean, if they don't end up lasting past this arc, we can always remove them. They just seem significant enough at this point to merit a front-page character box. Thoughts? --Zoey 22:37, 30 May 2007 (CDT)

I agree with putting them up. The Creators are obviously doing a thorough job trying to fill out these characters with their personalities, their relationships, and their parental issues, so I think they'll be up for awhile. I didn't expect Sarah to actually POST anything outside of a Myspace Blog so soon, but I stand corrected. --Pheon 11:37, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, I went through and found some good images of Sarah and Taylor. They will probably need to be cropped better to match up with the other characters, but I wanted to get some options up. What do people think (I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3, personally)?

0185-Sarah-in-Car.jpg 0202-Sarah-Quotes.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg 0184-SarahHoldingLipstick-Cropped.jpg Sarahimageforfc.jpg
Sarah 1 Sarah 2 Sarah 3 Sarah 4 Sarah 5


0185-Taylor.jpg TAY001-TaylorSmiling.jpg Taylor-IRecognizeHer.jpg
Taylor 1 Taylor 2 Taylor 3

--Zoey 14:20, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 as well (very Secret Agent-y . . . don't ask). But I'm stuck between Sarah 1,3, AND 5. 1 just seems to have that Sarah-randomn-quality to it, 3 (besides the obvious) is from her first v-blog, and 5 matches up with her profile (currently). So I'm stuck on Sarah. --Pheon 15:35, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3. Taylor 2 and Sarah 5 are also good. --XAccordianGuyx 19:51, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I like Taylor 1 and Sarah 3 as well. The other two Taylor photos are also good in that... well, that room is where you usually see her. But I stand T1 and S3. I'm glad we're adding them to the front page. --Chartreuse 20:33, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Okay, it seems like T1 and S3 are the consensus? Can anyone crop them so that their heads are the same size as the other chars on the front page? Oh and also...

0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg 0185-Taylor.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas Taylor Sarah

OR

0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas
0185-Taylor.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling.jpg
Taylor Sarah

OR um, yeah. How should we handle the alignment with five chars? --Zoey 20:47, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Here's a go at front-page quality images. They look bad full size, but I adjusted the face sizing and the saturation (only on Taylor's because it looked so bland between Jonas and Sarah).
0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg 0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas Taylor Sarah
I guess that looks a little more consistent? Just trying to help. --Chartreuse 22:08, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
I'm loving this group of five! So . . . on the alignment,I would prefer upside-down pyramid, if it's not too hard (The codes above look nightmare-ish). It just looks like a horizontal band of five characters would just be too long. --Pheon 02:43, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I feel like the Sarah pic needs to be SLIGHTLY zoomed in more to make her face size more consistant with the rest. I hope thats not too big a problem. Oh, and maybe she should be desaturated.. shes like.. noticably brighter than everyone else... But basically, other than that, are we good to go?

0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas
0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg
Taylor Sarah

Here's what I've got based on the current consesus. Like I said, I think Sarah's head should overall be larger to match with the rest of the chars but yeah. Oh, and I iike the saturation on Taylor. Yay, I can't wait for this to go live :D --Zoey 02:50, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Alright, I resized and recropped Sarah, desaturated and darkened her just the slightest bit (sorry, boys, had to crop the cleavage), so I think she fits in a bit more now. Also, I tweaked the previous code so that the border between Taylor and Sarah is only 1 pixel instead of two. I do like the pyramid... it kind of gives the feel of them being secondary main characters. Plus, it won't stretch things in lower resolutions. --Chartreuse 20:32, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
I think it looks GREAT!!! If there are no objections shortly, I'll put it up on the main page. Great work everyone!! --Zoey 20:36, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
I strongly Object to the Pyramid layout. you put it up before anyone had time to object -misty 23:14, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
It look fantabulous! Great job Zoey, Chartreuse, and everyone who figured out the new character-pyramid! --Pheon 21:41, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
I think it ould look better as a single line with smaller images. the pyramid looks awfull -misty 23:09, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg 0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas Taylor Sarah
The only problem with this is that it's going to look awful on lower resolutions. It'll stretch things all out of whack. I think the most characters you can have side-by-side is going to be four. It really is a shame we don't have one more character to try and balance the pyramid out. --Chartreuse 01:02, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I REALLY like the way it looks. However, the two columns on the Main Page are now very uneven. For this, I have a suggestion... how about we list the last 5 videos with thumbnails and descriptions, as opposed to 4? It's more consistent with the 5 "previous videos," and it will make the page look much more balanced. Y/N? ~ Jbshryne 23:30, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I was actually thinking the same, but I thought, 'Hmmm . . . better let someone else bring it up first' --Pheon 23:55, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I do actually kind of like the smaller images lined up in one row, but I still worry about what it will do to the page with smaller resolutions. Does anyone with a smaller resolution want to check this out maybe? --Zoey 02:23, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

in 1024X768 it looks great with 90px images but we can also reduce down to 80px images too. none of the formatted pages look good at 800x600, but I don't think we need to worry about that, since almost no one has a 13 inch monitor anymore. -misty 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
without objection I will change the page 12 hours from now. -misty 03:25, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
Sounds great to me. No objections here. --Chartreuse 12:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
Sure, sounds fine. ~ Jbshryne 13:28, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
Yeah . . . big pics in a pyramid, small pics in a line, whatever's clever --Pheon 14:34, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

Swap Taylor and Sarah

I noticed that FH14 just switched Taylor's and Sarah's boxes. I assume this is because Sarah is getting a bigger role now than Taylor? I reverted the change so it could be discussed and also because the borders didn't look quite right. If people want the pictures swapped, just offer your support here and we'll go ahead and do it. As a general rule, though, the Main Page shouldn't be changed without first getting consensus as it is the most viewed page on the 'pedia.--Jonpro 16:58, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

I agree that Sarah's become a more important character (thank god!), so she should be first. ~ Jbshryne 13:47, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
I also agree. It would make sense, seeing as it seems as though Taylor has faded out of the picture. --Bxman 18:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Okay, I went ahead and changed it. Thanks for the input, Jbshryne and Brooklynxman!--Jonpro 22:11, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
And you know, with the angle of Taylor's face in that pic, it works better as an end-piece. :-> ~ JBSHRYNE 02:15, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
I like it... and it also works alphabetically! Psmith 09:40, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Jonas' Picture

Chelseyrl 21:56, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
My only concern with this one is that it was previously edited by my friend. Chelseyrl 22:35, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Is it at all possible for Jonas' picture to be sharper? Otherwise, I think we should replace it. I do have another picture in mind. I remember the discussion of picture changes a month or so ago, but I think his picture needs to be either sharper or changed. I'd like to hear everyone's opinion. Chelseyrl 20:16, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

I agree. I always thought the picture wasn't sharp enough. I would love to see the picture you had in mind.--jeans
I concur, and besides, that picture isn't doing justice to his looks. --truncatedslinky 21:34, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
I like jonasdontticke.jpg (the left image)!!! If you need it cropped/adjusted, let me know. --Chartreuse 23:01, 7 June 2007 (CDT)
Yes, I love the one on the left as well! I think it would be great cropped. --jeans
Any mods like to put their input? Chelseyrl 22:37, 8 June 2007 (CDT)
The only mod I've seen around lately is Zoey. As for me, the left one rocks. ~ Jbshryne 13:42, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Oh, foot in mouth, JonPro just commented above. Anyway, yeah, I'd say at this point, we've got a consensus. ~ Jbshryne 13:45, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

Oh, me! :P I vote yes! I really like the left picture :) --Zoey 21:20, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

As do I. I just don't know how to change it on the main page. So can we go through with it?Chelseyrl 21:21, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
Someone will need to crop it so that it matches the size/ratio formats of the current images, and then it can be added. Once it's modified I can add it if ya want :P. That's not a problem. We just need to get it looking right! --Zoey 21:24, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
I'd crop it... but I have no idea what the current size/ratio format is. Chelseyrl 21:25, 9 June 2007 (CDT)
I cropped it to the size, but perhaps not to the ratio. If it's wrong, revert it. ~ JBSHRYNE 01:44, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
Yeah, his face was too big. Grr. I'll try again... in photoshop. ~ JBSHRYNE 01:46, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
Um... you know what? Bad news. There might not be enough "picture" around Jonas's face in that shot (even in the original video) to use that picture, because everybody else's faces are smaller in their pictures, in comparison to their "backgrounds."  :-( ~ JBSHRYNE 01:54, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
Yeah, I just tried to play with it... and you can get it to the same size and shape, but his face is way too close to the camera to bring it out and make him match the rest of them. I rewatched that same video to look for a place where there could have been a more usable screenshot, but to no avail. I'm going to go through some recent videos to look for a good screenshot. --Chartreuse 09:28, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
You know, how do we feel about a shot from The Morning After? Just looking at the thumbnail that's on the page right now, it looks like the size/ratio would pretty much match up perfectly with the others. The only problems I can see: (1) we would probably want to wait through a few more videos, so we don't have 2 shots from the same video on the Main Page, and (2) he's kind of half-naked (though that might be less of a problem for some than for others...) ~ JBSHRYNE 17:35, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
Too bad his hair isn't up to par. :( --jeans
I found another option for a picture. I looked through a lot of videos and not many of them have very good potential screenshots. This one was the best I could find at the moment. Any thoughts?--jeans


Ya know, I was totally thinking the same thing JB... but I didn't know if it would be okay with everyone with him with his shirt off. Granted, I'd love it, but my decision wasn't based on my "fan-girl"-ness. Chelseyrl 19:29, 10 June 2007 (CDT)
I too like the idea. :)--jeans


It may be difficult to find a good picture of Jonas where the camera is sufficiently distant from his face. See below for 5 pictures of Jonas: the current pic, the current pic sharpened, and 3 new pics from the latest video. However, when you put one of the new pics alongside the other characters, you can see that Jonas's face is too close to the camera. So far, I vote to use the sharpened version of the current pic unless someone can upload some more alternatives (or point me to the relevant video and scene for more photo ideas). Psmith 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg 0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg 0209-JonasToplessInBed-Cropped.jpg 0209-JonasLaughingInBed-Cropped.jpg 0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg
Jonas 1 Jonas 2 Jonas 3 Jonas 4 Jonas 5


0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-CroppedSharpened.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg 0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas Sarah Taylor


0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0209-JonasSmilingInBed-Cropped.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg 0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas Sarah Taylor
Psmith 09:37, 11 June 2007 (CDT)


Haha, those three new ones actually kind of scare me. I vote for the sharpened current one too. --Zoey 11:38, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Man... why does that pic from Bedside Manner have to be too big?? Yeah, I agree, the sharpened current is already a huge improvement. The Creators had better give us a nice shot of him soon, from far enough away... ~ JBSHRYNE 16:45, 11 June 2007 (CDT)
I agree, the sharpened version of the current picture is WAY cool.--jeans
I also agree, but it is higher in contrast and saturation than the others, I think that it should be the benchmark and the others should be matched to it since all of them are a little too dull. -misty 01:29, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
I also enjoy seeing a clearer version of the current picture of Jonas. Keep the same shot, just pick the clearer one! --Pheon 01:48, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
I love the sharper version. Great job whoever did it! Chelseyrl 23:06, 12 June 2007 (CDT)
OK, it looks like you all like the sharpened version so I'll go ahead and update the main page. Misty, I'll look at adjusting the sharpness of the other headshots too, but I'll post them here first. Psmith 09:39, 13 June 2007 (CDT)
Tada!--jeans July 11

I'm going to just throw another headshot out there and see if anyone likes it better than the current one. It obviously would still need to be properly cropped and sized.--jeans July 11

I love this! I was actually thinking "he looks so nice" as I was watching this video today. --Chartreuse 15:36, 11 July 2007 (CDT)
=D Me too.--jeans 16:06, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
Haha, this is the main reason I came to the discussion page tonight. I am all for this (of course, if it's possible). Chelseyrl 00:59, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

Adding Spencer, changing sizes.

Because it has been announced that Spencer will be with us as a series regular for at least the next two months, should we add him to the front page? If we do, we'll have to change the sizes of the character images because five on the top and one on the bottom would look kind of cluttered. Love, -R- 18:10, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

(EDIT: we could also make the sizes bigger to make it three on the top, three on the bottom) Love, -R- 18:12, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

I had been playing with that earlier today, actually! My Sandbox --Chartreuse 18:15, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Oh, I see! I'm glad you're working with it! Love, -R- 18:20, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Any feedback would be lovely. This is what I have at this point:
0136-BreeShrugging-Cropped.jpg 0167-DanielLaughing-Cropped.JPG 0155-JonasAtTheParty-Cropped.jpg
Bree Daniel Jonas
0185-Taylor-Cropped.jpg 0202-Sarah-Smiling-Cropped.jpg 0222-SpencerLaughing-Cropped.jpg
Taylor Sarah Spencer
i like that. 5 across was looking a little long to me, actually --Milowent 07:54, 11 July 2007 (CDT)

I think it's a fine idea, and it looks good, but I propose we wait to make any changes until we make the whole Portal pages live, just so we don't overcomplicate things. *nods* --Zoey 18:40, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

Oh, that's what I had figured on, which is why it was just on my sandbox page for now. I just had Photoshop open at the same time as Spencer's latest, so I was like... HMMM... *nods back* --Chartreuse 18:46, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Okay awesome :) Ooh, hey, if you've still got PS open, someone needs to crop the images on User:Zoey/sandbox to make them fit in the boxes properly. It might involve cropping.. or adding like.. a white background or something.. I dont know, whatever to make it look good. But yeah, just a though, especially if you have PS opened already :) Thanks. --Zoey 18:50, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
O.O! I refuse to admit to the fact that I had already been messing with them. Scary! --Chartreuse 18:55, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
*raises hand* I volunteer to crop *runs to PhotoPlus* MEEP Love, -R- 19:27, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
And heeeerrrreee we go!
LG15PortalImageCropped.jpg
KateModernPortalImageCropped.jpg
I'll go ahead and put them in your sandbox now, Zoey. Love, -R- 19:47, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

The LG one looks good, but does the KM one look slightly fuzzy to anyone else? Is that fixable? Gah, I hope we get the "new" cast photos Miles promised soon, I don't like how these two are so vastly different in sizes with the people (the Kate cast is so BIG compared to the LG cast! Haha). Other than that though, I think it's good. Anyone else have any thoughts? --Zoey 20:25, 10 July 2007 (CDT)

With the KM one, it was already fuzzy. That is the sharpened version, but I'll sharpen it a bit more. Love, -R- 20:26, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
OK, hows this:
KateModernPortalImageSharpened.jpg
It's increased a little bit. Love, -R- 20:32, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
(Ooops, wrong size (and I airbrushed a little bit.) Here:
KateModernPortalImageAirbrushed.jpg
Hows that?) Love, -R- 20:37, 10 July 2007 (CDT)
Those look nice. Only thing I recommend (if possible) is sharpening around Gavin's head and Kate's head. Otherwise it's a vast improvement. Chelseyrl 00:58, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
Ok, I went a little airbrush crazy on this one, but deal with it. The shadows were bugging me.
KateModernPortalImagePhotoshopped.jpg
Soooo...? Love, -R- 01:46, 12 July 2007 (CDT)
On second thought, I don't like it. What is everyone else's opinion? Love, -R- 01:58, 12 July 2007 (CDT)

Adding on to the navigation

Whoever has access to edit the navigation bar on the side will soon need to add the KM and LG portals on. This will be more convenient for editors and users to navigate between the shows. Just bringing this to attention. Love, -R- 22:01, 14 July 2007 (CDT)

I think that the Portal links should be at the top. So it would go Portal, Videos, Forums, List of Videos. I think it makes more sense considering we're at the 'pedia, so the Portal should be first. Chelseyrl 13:51, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
Yeah, I agree with Chelsey. I'd fix it but I gave up my sysop rights! :*( Anybody who has sysop access can change the sidebar here: MediaWiki:Sidebar.--JayHenry 16:40, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
Done! (I was wondering about that too . . .) :) --Pheon 16:48, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

This is Probably Just Stupid But...

...The main page, i like it but for some reason i don't think it looks wiki like. It is cool but needs to look more like a wiki. But my opinion is just an opinion.


Well, in my opinion, you're wrong :P
Seriously, though, pick any other skin, and the old main page looks different as well. Just because wikipedia has a certain design doesn't make that the ultimate "wiki" design. There are dozens of skins for the MediaWiki software alone, and dozens of other wiki softwares as well. Look at MemoryAlpha:Main Page - they're using the same software both Wikipedia and LGPedia use - yet they look totally different.
We acknowledge your wish to have the main page look more like a generic wikipedia clone, but I, personally, do not support it :P
~ Renegade (talk | contribs) 09:14, 22 July 2007 (CDT)

Why is there something on the main page nere the bottom for...

lonelygirl15, it has the creators, and the "universe". if there was that shouldn't katemodern have one or should the lonelygirl15 one be taken off--Houdini 15:22, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

The 'Universe' encompases both the stories of Kate & Bree, Houdini. They simply call it the LG15 Universe, becuase, well, LG15 came first. --Pheon 15:39, 27 July 2007 (CDT)

New Featured Article

should there be a new featured article?--Houdini 02:15, 29 July 2007 (CDT)


I believe so, It has been up there for a while.

--Michiev 20:19, 6 August 2007 (CDT)


Lonelygirl15 Portal image

Eventually do you think that the portal image for lonelygirl should be changed to reflect the fact that bree is no longer?

Im not saying anyone has to, im just throwing an idea out in the air.

beta.lonelygirl15.com

So I see that www.lg15.com/lgpedia has been moved to beta.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia. If anyone could fix any broken links on Wikipedia, that'd be great! I'll get to work on it, but I see some of the links are still at lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia, which as we know, is broken. Bye guys!   •Silver•   Talk | Contribs 20:18, 8 August 2007 (CDT)

I'm sorry, but I don't even see what youre talking about? LGPedia links show up for me at lg15.com/lgpedia --Zoey 23:38, 8 August 2007 (CDT)
For a short while, Zoey, the LGPedia was relocated beta.lonelygirl15.com/lgpedia. It seems that it has been moved back to lg15.com/lgpedia, though.

Missions and Relationships

Should i move missions and relationships to the main page.--Houdini 17:43, 13 August 2007 (CDT)

I'd say that it's a good idea to move Missions and Relationships to the Main Page. :) Go for it, Houdini!   •Silver•   Talk | Contribs 01:55, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Well I'm not sure about Missions, but I think Relationships should be seperate for each series, as the page is already long enough as it is. --Zoey 02:03, 16 August 2007 (CDT)
Hmmm, Missions could work for the Main page, as it currently has both series in that article. I do agree with Zoey however, that Relationships would be fine with their respective Portal. --Pheon 02:18, 16 August 2007 (CDT)

How about?

How about each month we change it to a charector theme? But I dont think thats a very good idea.

New Series Portal Images

Well, with all of the new logos... well now so new anymore... I believe it is past due for a little change. I made a portal image for LG15 first: LG15 Portal Splash Image.png
I want to get feedback before I make the KateModern image, because that will take a little more work and I don't want to waist my time. Feel free to comment, I personally don't like the way it ways "portal," and need help on what it should look like. Love, Randy (Say Wha'? | Whachu Doin'?) [Sept. 09, '07 - 8:26 PM, Central Daylight]

You couldn't copy my response too, Randy?? :P (Anyways, I think it looks good, and I would suggest having the "Portal" go diagonal-like like the rest of the logo, if possible. -- 18:29, 9 September 2007 (CDT)) Pheon 21:23, 11 September 2007 (CDT)
Caaaan do! (oh and anyone who has better photo-shopping skills than a 13 year old, feel free to jump in. I built that logo from scratch and thats why it doesn't look like the actual logo.) Love, Randy (Say Wha'? | Whachu Doin'?) [Aug 12, '07 - 8:23 PM, Central Daylight]


One Year of LGPedia

Did anyone mention before that the LGPedia recently had its one year anniversary? Kudos to all who have contributed, especially our dear admins.

The first edit of the main page came on Sept. 29, 2006, and it read: "Woo hoo! LG15 rocks! Cassieiswatching." Sept 29, 2006: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=1405

Sept 29 later that day, the 1st real main page, by TheNunOwnedGoat: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=1437

Oct 1, already full of links!: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=2127

Nov 9: warning about yousef firing on main page: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=5935

Jan 4, 2007: Nicer new header debuts: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=16791

Jan 24: LGPedia reaches 1 million views. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=19692

March 28: LGPedia reaches 2 millions views. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=31776

May 29: LGPedia reaches 3 million page views: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=49143

June 16: It is noted that LGPedia has exceeded 1,000 articles. http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=52726

July 15: New main page, split between LG15 and KM, debuts: http://www.lg15.com/lgpedia/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=58492

--Milowent 14:00, 8 October 2007 (CDT)

That's awesome, Milowent. Brings back good times. Man, I remember that Firing of Yousef fiasco and then the Glenn Rubenstein thing which we were afraid was going to blow up just as big. Somehow the effects really didn't get seen here as much as the forums I don't think. But I just want to say thanks as well to everyone who has contributed. Even though I'm not helping out here as much, I'm always checking out the video pages and reading the notes to catch up on all the stuff that's happening in the LG15 world. Looking forward to another great year!--Jonpro 14:32, 8 October 2007 (CDT)
I remember first visiting the site around this time last year (wasn't even registered then). Man, times have changed, have they? --Pheon 05:18, 8 December 2007 (CST)

Featured Content

Since the "Featured Article" hasn't really been working out for some time, I decided to go a new approach. To me, it makes way more sense to have "Featured Content" that rotates fairly regularly. Instead of having to perfect an article and wait while people debate over it and blahblah, with featured content, you should still nominate it, but it won't have to be perfect. It will be much less intense... it can be a new feature we've added to the Pedia, breaking plot news, an article that's just undergone a major revision, even a funny tidbit burried in one of our pages. Hopefully, by featuring "content" instead of just an "article" we'll be able to keep people much better informed of all the great things the wiki has to offer.

Let me know what you think! (PS Sorry this sounds like a sales pitch, I'm just so excited lol. And now... as it's 5:30 am (which actually means I may have forgotten something I meant to say here... sorry if I did...), I am off to bed :)) --Zoey 04:35, 29 November 2007 (CST)

I concur. Make it more like Wikipedia. Although, we should probably create a template to nominate a page to feature, like they have there, as well. (And of course a similar page to discuss nominations.) - Shiori 12:59, 29 November 2007 (CST)
I love this idea! Strong support.
  •Silver•   Talk | Contribs 17:22, 6 December 2007 (CST)
There appears to be no dissenters (no one's responded in a week). If we do decide to go along with this new approach, what should we feature first?? --Pheon 18:29, 16 December 2007 (CST)
Hm, we could feature Jan Libby now, since I just revamped it a fair bit and she was shouted out in Sarah's latest videos? Trying to think what else... --Zoey 15:43, 17 December 2007 (CST)


New portal images?

I was just wondering, since KM season 1 has ended, and LG season 2 is coming to a close. should there be a new Portal image? --Michiev

Maybe, but the problem then becomes what images would we use? Those two are the best we've got right now. I do think we might want to put the actual logos on them, but that's another matter. - Shiori 10:11, 25 January 2008 (CST)
I just saw the two new Portal images! I love them! Thank you ,Zoey - Irene(AzukiLotus) 20:27,14 February 2008 (HKT)
Should Kate be in the KateModern portal image? Just a thought...Babygurl1853

The Last Work

Can someone change the announcement from prom to the last work [the finale of KateModern.]--Houdini 14:36, 17 June 2008 (CDT)


The End

Since this show has ended as well, are we going to do it up like we did with KM after the finale? i was also wondering whats going to happen to the main portal images, are those going to the side panel when the new shows premiere?

the resistance/The Resistance

Do we have any official word on the capitalization of the new series? I know it seems trivial, but I notice things like this. The trailer was posted unitalicized, but the new board on the forum was capitalized. Just wondering if we know for sure yet. --Andy 23:28, 3 August 2008 (CDT)

The group Amanda created on Facebook is lowercase, but aside from that, I haven't seen anything official either way. --Zoey 23:32, 3 August 2008 (CDT)
Ah, okay. Thanks, Zoey! --Andy 23:46, 3 August 2008 (CDT)


The Resistance portal image?

i was wondering if anyone would like me to make several portal-maybes that we could use as the "click here" image for the main page like all the other shows have.

-Michiev 23:27, 13 September 2008 (CDT)

How about these? A couple of portal images i put together, thoughts? --KindredPhantom 08:34, 17 September 2008 (CDT)

LG15 Resistance Portal1.jpg LG15 Resistance Portal2.jpg LG15 Resistance Portal3.jpg

I'm going to say no to those, only because the main page is going to be redesigned inside of two weeks. The design Zoey and I were toying around with eliminates the need for those entry images. That, and if we added one in right now, it would look mega weird, since The Resistance doesn't have the polygon shape to it, unlike the other boxes. I should have said this earlier, but I had completely forgotten about it. (I like the last one the best, though. ;) ) - Shiori 04:00, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
I'd say that is a better idea then Shiori, at least then the pictures won't need updating every season. --KindredPhantom 04:46, 20 September 2008 (CDT)

Thin?

I was wondering what is up with the new Pedia... the background looks great, but on the whole, it looks very... thin in my browser. It seems like it used to fill more space, but now seems to have a lot of dead air out to the sides. Just wondering... --Greenie 14:30, 16 September 2008 (CDT)

Your're right. I like it except for the thinness, as it seems to have destroyed many of the layouts. --FH14 15:46, 16 September 2008 (EST)
I think it may have been altered for it's integration with the new site. If you look how the MediaWiki software that the pedia uses it looks like the pedia is a lot more compact. Perhaps asking in the forums or making a suggestion that it be put back so that it doesn't mess with layouts. --KindredPhantom 16:05, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
I made a thread in the new forum and Broken Kid wants to know what pages don't display properly. --KindredPhantom 16:44, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
Of the pages I've seen so far. the main pages for LG and KM are off from what I can tell. Also, the headers for pages such as behind the scenes, soundtracks, cast & crew, the video lists . . . most banners are overlapping on themselves due to be "squished." --Pheon 17:43, 16 September 2008 (CDT)
If need be, after we've got the redesign of The Resistance Portal and the main page in place, I can go over everything and do a brand new redesign from the ground up. The KM and lg15 stuff should be easy, though. I can just do a minor rewrite to get those working - I'm mainly referring to redesigning the header template. I hated how it looked for the longest time, and now we actually have a reason to get rid of it. :P - Shiori 03:27, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
Are their any technical solutions that would allow for the Eqal navigation bar but would also allow for a variable page width as suggested by KindredPhantom. What would be the pro/con of variable width vs fixed width in terms of the general design of LGPedia pages? Would it be worth while to set a minimum width to lock in design features but allow for variable width wider than that for those who prefer to use a wider browser window? Food for thought.--modelmotion 05:14, 20 September 2008 (CDT)
Is no one else affected by the fixed width of LGPedia? I doubt that everyone who visits it and work on it views it on a 1024x768 monitor, it cannot be just me that it annoys that feels that it should be returned to how it originally was?
It would be nice if others joined in the discussionwe are having about it, if more people add their opinion to it and ask for it to be changed back then it doesn’t look like something only a couple of people care about. It’s much better in numbers, a unified voice.--KindredPhantom 07:38, 23 September 2008 (CDT)

Main Page redesign(?)

The fact that there are two blank logos next to the N1ckola one is bothering the crap out of me, and I've been trying to fix it with no such luck. So, I was thinking, for the time being, while there are only four EQAL-produced LG15 Franchise shows, we could use the images that mm uploaded and has over at User:Modelmotion/main. Of course, not that exact layout, but something with those images, that wouldn't look bad if we had four in a row. Just because it's bugging the crap out of me. Then, once we get our promised Italy and Japan shows, we could revert back to these logos since we'd have six EQAL LG15 shows. What do you think?   •Kevin•   15:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Could you do a mock-up of what it would look like? --FH14 13:16, 29 July 2009 (EST)